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sethnintendo on 20 May 2017
palou said:
It will be a fine day when BOTH the GOP and DNC collapse, so an actual democracy can be installed in America. Not just one of them, though, don't trust them with full power over the country.

 

That would be the day if both of these shit parties were wiped off the earth. Unfortunately, I believe they would only be replaced by even worse parties. That is how much faith I have in our political system and the majority of dumbass voters that live here in USA.

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DarthMetalliCube on 20 May 2017
palou said:
It will be a fine day when BOTH the GOP and DNC collapse, so an actual democracy can be installed in America. Not just one of them, though, don't trust them with full power over the country.

Basically. Both our major parties are shit and both completely corrupt and inept. Republicans are the party of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld neocons whom I despise, and they dissapointed me in 2012 when they shut out Ron Paul but paled in comparison to the DNC blatantly colluding against Bernie in 2016, along with their divisive SJW politics of late and proping up the unbelievably corrupt HRC as their candidate. I'd love to see the Green and Libertarian parties come to the forefront but it'll probably never happen.. Jill Stein and Gary Johnson had their flaws no doubt, but they were leagues better than Hillary and Trump. If we must deal with the necessary evil of the GOP vs DNC I'd at least love to see Rand Paul and Kucinich on the tickets, but again.. probably won't happen. Establishment wouldn't allow it. I was hoping at least for a third major party at least that goes back to true liberal values (ie Bernie/Stein/Kucinich) but still no signs of that either.. DNC has basically become Republican lite at the moment.



 

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palou on 20 May 2017
sethnintendo said:
palou said:
It will be a fine day when BOTH the GOP and DNC collapse, so an actual democracy can be installed in America. Not just one of them, though, don't trust them with full power over the country.

 

That would be the day if both of these shit parties were wiped off the earth. Unfortunately, I believe they would only be replaced by even worse parties. That is how much faith I have in our political system and the majority of dumbass voters that live here in USA.

Just design the next electoral system to prevent parties from becoming all powerful towards one target demographic.

 

 

In the US, a conservative HAS to vote republican, as third parties will never get a majority in a state. In Germany, if a candidate gets 5% nationwide (MUCH more feasible), he gets representation. So the big parties actually have to do stuff outside of criticizing each other to retain power.



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darkenergy on 20 May 2017

Hopefully the DNC collapses and a new party will establish in its place.



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vivster on 20 May 2017
Locknuts said:

Not sure why this hasn't made it into the mainstream media....oh wait, yes I am.

Probably because nothing is actually happening? No sentence, no new details, no drunken twitter rants. You see the word "new" in "news"? That's kind of a requirement.



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palou on 20 May 2017
darkenergy said:
Hopefully the DNC collapses and a new party will establish in its place.

What about several parties? Tired of the 2 party system, tired of FPTP



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LurkerJ on 20 May 2017
Locknuts said:
VGPolyglot said:
I don't really think that anything will come of this. Especially since Bernie Sanders endorsed Clinton after he lost the race, so it kind of makes it hard when Bernie Sanders views it as legitimate.

Well Bernie's not the one taking them to court. His supporters don't think he was given a fair run and want their money back. And then some.

What will come of it if it is found that the DNC obtained campaign funds fraudulently is that people will think twice about donating in future.

If anyone ever reports on this that is. I've seen nothing of it on TV or the internet. If it's not Trump it's not news it seems.

People, not corporations. A candidate like Hillary can do well without the people's donations



palou on 20 May 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
palou said:

What about several parties? Tired of the 2 party system, tired of FPTP

Wouldn't that actually make it a 1 party system?

If only 1 of the parties collapse and are replaced by several parties then their about 50% share of votes will be split between several parties meaning the party that didn't collapse will have an easy win every time.

That's why I said that I'm waiting for both the parties to just die off at the same time. 



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zygote on 20 May 2017

I love this thread.  I've had my fill over the last 1.5 years of everything that happened and how upsetting it is, but I'm glad to see the opinions here.  Just showing the love and mutual frustration.



jason1637 on 20 May 2017
sethnintendo said:
palou said:
It will be a fine day when BOTH the GOP and DNC collapse, so an actual democracy can be installed in America. Not just one of them, though, don't trust them with full power over the country.

 

That would be the day if both of these shit parties were wiped off the earth. Unfortunately, I believe they would only be replaced by even worse parties. That is how much faith I have in our political system and the majority of dumbass voters that live here in USA.

"Dumbass voters" because people don't vote the way you'd like then to vote they are dumbasses lol.

 

As for the DNC and GOP being done away with and new parties are establish there would still be a liberal party that former democrats would end up joining and a conservative party that former republicans will end up joining. The parties aren't the problem it's those that are in the parties.