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impossible. because everything MS did wrong this gen was because of Matrick, even though he has been gone for about 4 years now.



bananaking21 said:
impossible. because everything MS did wrong this gen was because of Matrick, even though he has been gone for about 4 years now.

True, but Spencer needs to start believing in what traditional console development can do. The reason why he lags behind the competition in development is because they are not as invested in the creative aspect. They pay or acquire people for the work, which is hit or miss at best and has proven to be such. They did the same thing under Mattrick, but I like Phil. I just dont like hearing that they are steering into the service model over single player games. This going to hurt them. Microsoft needs studios that will obey their will, not to commission people who make IP's they cannot control. Gears, Forza and Halo are a great indicator of why this is so important.



Mattrick for sure.
Neither probably had any real say how things played out in the end but...since I have to pick one, I say Mattrick based solely on the fact Xbox was a lot more ambititious back then compared to what we have now.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
bananaking21 said:
impossible. because everything MS did wrong this gen was because of Matrick, even though he has been gone for about 4 years now.

True, but Spencer needs to start believing in what traditional console development can do. The reason why he lags behind the competition in development is because they are not as invested in the creative aspect. They pay or acquire people for the work, which is hit or miss at best and has proven to be such. They did the same thing under Mattrick, but I like Phil. I just dont like hearing that they are steering into the service model over single player games. This going to hurt them. Microsoft needs studios that will obey their will, not to commission people who make IP's they cannot control. Gears, Forza and Halo are a great indicator of why this is so important.

i was being sarcastic. there are tons of people who blame everything MS has done wrong this gen on martick, when he has been out since the very start.  Matrick left MS before the xbox one even RELEASED. 



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bananaking21 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

True, but Spencer needs to start believing in what traditional console development can do. The reason why he lags behind the competition in development is because they are not as invested in the creative aspect. They pay or acquire people for the work, which is hit or miss at best and has proven to be such. They did the same thing under Mattrick, but I like Phil. I just dont like hearing that they are steering into the service model over single player games. This going to hurt them. Microsoft needs studios that will obey their will, not to commission people who make IP's they cannot control. Gears, Forza and Halo are a great indicator of why this is so important.

i was being sarcastic. there are tons of people who blame everything MS has done wrong this gen on martick, when he has been out since the very start.  Matrick left MS before the xbox one even RELEASED. 

It hink its because he was around during the development of Xbox One. 



Azzanation said:

I had nothing agaisnt Dons vision. If it went his way we would have gotten a digital world like Steam with no Discs required and newer innovation with Kinect 2.0. Unfortunately now, all we have is two identical consoles that offer nothing but the same things apart from there 1st games.
1 main reason i like the Switch is because its different and is taking risks. Now consoles are just PCs with paywalls. As a PC gamer, consoles (aside from the Switch) dont interest me anymore.
No risk taking from Sony or MS. Just heres more power.

The problem with Don's /MS vision is that it put way too many restrictions on consumers, DRM, always online, authentication every 24 hours ...etc and they were way too arraogantly stubborn about it despite the backlash from the gamer community including xbox die hard fans. Taking risks is fine and it is one way of making changes but a risk is a risk, Sony took a risk with PS3 implementing the CBE. Despite the CBE extreme power and theoretical potential to be the processor of next generation(s), the result was a disaster that made Sony really struggle with PS3 not making any profits for quite a while.

Nintendo is not really taking any risks with the Switch, the way I see the switch is that it is an evolution of previous Nintendo consoles exactly like the PS4 and xbone



 

Azzanation said:

I had nothing agaisnt Dons vision. If it went his way we would have gotten a digital world like Steam with no Discs required and newer innovation with Kinect 2.0. Unfortunately now, all we have is two identical consoles that offer nothing but the same things apart from there 1st games.
1 main reason i like the Switch is because its different and is taking risks. Now consoles are just PCs with paywalls. As a PC gamer, consoles (aside from the Switch) dont interest me anymore.
No risk taking from Sony or MS. Just heres more power.

A drm Xbox would still be the same Xbox we have now, only more restrictive. As for Kinect 2.0, it still wasn't precise enough to be useful for anything more intricate.

Consoles have always been identical with the way we play them until like the Wii, I think you're being disingenuous when you criticize the current gen when it has always been like this, power and exclusives were always the main differentiating factor. I dunno what you were expecting to change in something that's been around for 30 years. The nature of home consoles is never gonna change, TV will always be TV, so will your refrigerator and washing machine.

Switch is a handheld, something Nintendo does for decades, I dont see with what they're taking risks, having it connect to your tv? Nintendo hasn't taken any big risks since the Gamecube and its library, taking their IPs into a new direction, it's a risk averse company banking on safe bets and people's nostalgia now.