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collint0101 on 04 May 2017
VGPolyglot said:
collint0101 said:

Because I actually enjoy video games and I would prefer if the people that played them actually buy them so developers and publishers can continue to make more video games

Piracy has existed since video games have existed, and yet developers and publishers still continue to make games. So maybe it's not a huge deal like many people make it out to be?

That doesn't mean it's not bad and shouldn't be stopped. Shoplifting isn't going to kill Walmart but that doesn't mean we should be accepting of thieves. Same applies to piracy Nintendo isn't going to go under because of people emulating BotW but that doesn't mean it's​ ok. it applies less so to huge sellers like BotW but I'm legitimately bothered by the idea of underappreciated games like Tokyo mirage sessions or indies getting pirated because their low sales basically mean every potential sale matters. Every time someone pirates something like TMS instead of buying it that decreases the chances of TMS getting a sequel



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Zkuq on 04 May 2017
collint0101 said:
CladInShadows said:

I'm going to give you 4 factual statements:

1. Some people pirate games to play on emulators

2. Some people buy games to play on emulators

3. Some people buy games to play on consoles

4. Some people pirate games to play on consoles

 

Painting with a wide brush does nobody good.

The fact that some people use emulation legally doesn't suddenly justify all the people that use it ilegally. 

It goes both ways, you know.



collint0101 on 04 May 2017
Zkuq said:
collint0101 said:

Because I actually enjoy video games and I would prefer if the people that played them actually buy them so developers and publishers can continue to make more video games

Emulation requires way too much processing power to be viable for most people. It's not going to kill any game that was going to be even half-successful in the first place because not enough people can afford or are willing to spend enough to get a powerful enough PC. It would probably be sort of an achivement for even 100,000 people to emulate a single game, and that would certainly not hurt any decently successful games too much. Whatever piracy emulation is causing is probably not very much in the big picture.

With PC gaming becoming more popular the number of people out there with the necessary hardware are becoming more common



CladInShadows on 04 May 2017
collint0101 said:
CladInShadows said:

I'm going to give you 4 factual statements:

1. Some people pirate games to play on emulators

2. Some people buy games to play on emulators

3. Some people buy games to play on consoles

4. Some people pirate games to play on consoles

 

Painting with a wide brush does nobody good.

The fact that some people use emulation legally doesn't suddenly justify all the people that use it ilegally. 

You should be focusing your efforts on curbing piracy (illegal) not emulation (legal).



VGPolyglot on 04 May 2017
collint0101 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Piracy has existed since video games have existed, and yet developers and publishers still continue to make games. So maybe it's not a huge deal like many people make it out to be?

That doesn't mean it's not bad and shouldn't be stopped. Shoplifting isn't going to kill Walmart but that doesn't mean we should be accepting of thieves. Same applies to piracy Nintendo isn't going to go under because of people emulating BotW but that doesn't mean it's​ ok. it applies less so to huge sellers like BotW but I'm legitimately bothered by the idea of underappreciated games like Tokyo mirage sessions or indies getting pirated because their low sales basically mean every potential sale matters. Every time someone pirates something like TMS instead of buying it that decreases the chances of TMS getting a sequel

Well, shoplifting and Walmart opens up another can of worms. I hate Walmart, and a lof of people steal because they're in desperate financial circumstances. I also don't think that piracy really affected the sales of TMS.



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CladInShadows on 04 May 2017
collint0101 said:
Zkuq said:

Emulation requires way too much processing power to be viable for most people. It's not going to kill any game that was going to be even half-successful in the first place because not enough people can afford or are willing to spend enough to get a powerful enough PC. It would probably be sort of an achivement for even 100,000 people to emulate a single game, and that would certainly not hurt any decently successful games too much. Whatever piracy emulation is causing is probably not very much in the big picture.

With PC gaming becoming more popular the number of people out there with the necessary hardware are becoming more common

However big you think the number is, it's likely MUCH MUCH lower.  But whatever.  You people seem to have it in your head that all people emulating are a bunch of dirty pirates and nothing is going to change that.  It's getting tiresome.



Chazore on 04 May 2017
CladInShadows said:
collint0101 said:

With PC gaming becoming more popular the number of people out there with the necessary hardware are becoming more common

However big you think the number is, it's likely MUCH MUCH lower.  But whatever.  You people seem to have it in your head that all people emulating are a bunch of dirty pirates and nothing is going to change that.  It's getting tiresome.

This is why I've been getting bored with seeing the same people hopping into any Emu thread. They clearly aren't interested in the Emu let alone the progress it's making, but rather the interest is just to hop in and brush a bunch of people with a wide brush.



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collint0101 on 04 May 2017
CladInShadows said:
collint0101 said:

The fact that some people use emulation legally doesn't suddenly justify all the people that use it ilegally. 

You should be focusing your efforts on curbing piracy (illegal) not emulation (legal).

Well stopping the people that think it's ok to donate money to piracy tool would be the first step. That's basically like if a guy that jailbreaks iPhones set up a patreon. That's why I think publishers should start going after these people they're already going after the last gen versions of persona and​ Zelda how long will it be before these people start going after the switch or ps4 or xb1



collint0101 on 04 May 2017
CladInShadows said:
collint0101 said:

With PC gaming becoming more popular the number of people out there with the necessary hardware are becoming more common

However big you think the number is, it's likely MUCH MUCH lower.  But whatever.  You people seem to have it in your head that all people emulating are a bunch of dirty pirates and nothing is going to change that.  It's getting tiresome.

It's just as tiring to see you people continue to be unwilling to admit that illegal emulation does have a negative impact on games. Try to downplay it all you want it doesn't make it right



collint0101 on 04 May 2017
VGPolyglot said:
collint0101 said:

That doesn't mean it's not bad and shouldn't be stopped. Shoplifting isn't going to kill Walmart but that doesn't mean we should be accepting of thieves. Same applies to piracy Nintendo isn't going to go under because of people emulating BotW but that doesn't mean it's​ ok. it applies less so to huge sellers like BotW but I'm legitimately bothered by the idea of underappreciated games like Tokyo mirage sessions or indies getting pirated because their low sales basically mean every potential sale matters. Every time someone pirates something like TMS instead of buying it that decreases the chances of TMS getting a sequel

Well, shoplifting and Walmart opens up another can of worms. I hate Walmart, and a lof of people steal because they're in desperate financial circumstances. I also don't think that piracy really affected the sales of TMS.

It definitely doesn't help sales either. this isn't about people discovering some lost underappreciated SNES game we're talking about games that can be bought new in stores right now