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VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

Because I want to clarify what you're saying. No idea how you can say there aren't fundamentalists and say that you're not interpreting their faith for them. There are people who want to live the way Mohammad lived. Those people aren't fundamentalists? Also, these are depicted in the Hadith, not the Quran.

 

Btw, watched the discussion between Dave Rubin and Yasmine Mohammed? I think it'all be on interest to you.

We don't have all of the context or details of Muhammad's life, so there's inevitably going to be interpretations of his actions and teachings.

And that interpretation results in Islam.



Lawlight said:
VGPolyglot said:

We don't have all of the context or details of Muhammad's life, so there's inevitably going to be interpretations of his actions and teachings.

And that interpretation results in Islam.

Yes, but there are contradictions, so how it's interpretated depends on societal factors. For example, in some parts it says only Muslims go to Heaven. Yet, in other parts it also says that Jews in Christians do, too. 

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/reward.html



VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

And that interpretation results in Islam.

Yes, but there are contradictions, so how it's interpretated depends on societal factors. For example, in some parts it says only Muslims go to Heaven. Yet, in other parts it also says that Jews in Christians do, too. 

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/reward.html

"Societal factors" - so you say. As far as they are concerned, they're in the right. And watch that video, Poly. It's relevant to you.



Lawlight said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yes, but there are contradictions, so how it's interpretated depends on societal factors. For example, in some parts it says only Muslims go to Heaven. Yet, in other parts it also says that Jews in Christians do, too. 

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/reward.html

"Societal factors" - so you say. As far as they are concerned, they're in the right. And watch that video, Poly. It's relevant to you.

Yes, they think they're in the right, because they grew up in a society with many societal problems, and just like what happens everywhere else, they find a disadvantaged group in that society to put the blame on. In this case, non-believers.



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VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

"Societal factors" - so you say. As far as they are concerned, they're in the right. And watch that video, Poly. It's relevant to you.

Yes, they think they're in the right, because they grew up in a society with many societal problems, and just like what happens everywhere else, they find a disadvantaged group in that society to put the blame on. In this case, non-believers.

What are they blaming on the non-believers? They just doing what their religion is telling them to do.



Lawlight said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yes, they think they're in the right, because they grew up in a society with many societal problems, and just like what happens everywhere else, they find a disadvantaged group in that society to put the blame on. In this case, non-believers.

What are they blaming on the non-believers? They just doing what their religion is telling them to do.

Economic issues. Also, as I said, there are contradictions in the Quran, some promoting violence, others promoting peace, so their circumstances are going to have a huge effect on their decisions.



This is one of those countries where hands are chopped of for stealing and people that commit adultery are stoned to death.



Peh said:

Are William Lane Craig or Eric Hovind the spokesperson of billions of religious people? I think not. Same as the conartist Zakir Naik is not a spokesperson for islam.

They are examples going against the very thing irstupid said religious people don't do. These are very famous people (there are thousands of spokemen/women) who have many followers so their representation is quite large. Does that answer your question?

My point against irstupid is don't claim something when there is huge amounts of proof contrary to what he is saying.



LadyJasmine said:
If Islam was a religion of peace, shouldn't the most fundamentalist believers be the most peaceful?

my thoughts exactly

same stands for the Christians who support racial hate, thank god they don't go as far as taking physical action to express their hate



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