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Will Sony try something like this again?

Yes 77 59.69%
 
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You did get it right. The PS4 pro did fail. If it didn't fail, Sony would have gave out sales numbers abundantly. Xbox did a similar thing in late 2014 (not that Xbox One was failing, but they were and still are getting obliterated by Sony, and sales numbers would make them look bad).

People asking for proof of Pro's failure should think why Sony isn't talking about it too much.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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flashfire926 said:
You did get it right. The PS4 pro did fail. If it didn't fail, Sony would have gave out sales numbers abundantly. Xbox did a similar thing in late 2014 (not that Xbox One was failing, but they were and still are getting obliterated by Sony, and sales numbers would make them look bad).

People asking for proof of Pro's failure should think why Sony isn't talking about it too much.

that seems like faulty logic, Nintendo hasnt given sales numbers for Switch, it must have had a poor launch.



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GarlandSteve74 said:

It's no secret that the PS4 Pro has flopped.

I love mine and appreciate Sony's attention to the fanbase that is willing to spend a little extra on better perfomance but us hardcore games are the VAST minority of consumers. 

Most brick and mortar stores like Best Buy and Target only stock the console on their website and even Amazon doesn't even sell it anymore (other than through 3rd parties).

On top of that, Sony, the king of sales figues, has been completely silent since December 6th about the success (or lack there of) of the PS4 Pro.

With this idea failing, do you think Sony will attempt something like this mid-cycle upgrade again sometime in the future, or just focus on the success of their main system?

I know there will be some die hard Sony fans in this thread saying things like, "Another April Fools post.", but to those of you, like me, who like the idea of the Pro but understand that it has flopped, what are your thoughts?

Sorry dude I stopped reading there, this thread is not based on facts but on misinformation or personal thoughts projection. The PS4 was out of stock in many countries, it's not available for sale not because it's selling bad, it's just that there's nothing to sell because the stock has been depleted.

 

Now if you excuse me, there are more serious threads to visit.



Hopefully not. Glad it failed! I know they kept saying they wouldn't make exclusive games or whatever for it, but if it had been succesful I expect they would have changed their tune on that. I don't want to buy 2 PSs a gen just because some people want a .01 fps increase or something like that. Just want to keep playing my regular PS4 and get all the content on there.



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And another loss for these graphic whores of the gaming community, thanks Arceus.

I mean, I want my games to run fine but it doesn't need to be your ultra-realistic engine, 120 fps, HDR and full AA.
And the push for 4K gaming is still too soon, especially for the masses.



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zorg1000 said:

Nope, 3 quarters. PS2 released in Q1 in Japan and Q4 in America/Europe. Thats 3 quarters of being exclusively in Japan.

Its not downplaying, its simply pointing out that PS4 is not outselling PS2 in the same timeframe by using the most logical way of comparing them.

If the whole launch aligned thing doesnt make sense to you than why did you bring it up in the first place?

PS2 released in march 2000 in japan, october 2000 in nothr america (april, may, june, july, august, september = 6 months = 2 quarters) and in november in europe.

Wait, the most logical way of comparing is not to simply just look at how long both machines have been on the market but instead look at whne they were released in their respective territories? Ok..... got you.

I brought up the launch aligned thing? i think you have me mistaken with somoene else. All I did was point out to you that contrary to what you said, the PS4 wasn't tracking behgind the PS2. You and someone else chose to use the whole launch aligning thing to negate my point.



Was a good move by Sony. End result was more profit margin. Alot of people bought pro



Intrinsic said:
zorg1000 said:

Nope, 3 quarters. PS2 released in Q1 in Japan and Q4 in America/Europe. Thats 3 quarters of being exclusively in Japan.

Its not downplaying, its simply pointing out that PS4 is not outselling PS2 in the same timeframe by using the most logical way of comparing them.

If the whole launch aligned thing doesnt make sense to you than why did you bring it up in the first place?

PS2 released in march 2000 in japan, october 2000 in nothr america (april, may, june, july, august, september = 6 months = 2 quarters) and in november in europe.

Wait, the most logical way of comparing is not to simply just look at how long both machines have been on the market but instead look at whne they were released in their respective territories? Ok..... got you.

I brought up the launch aligned thing? i think you have me mistaken with somoene else. All I did was point out to you that contrary to what you said, the PS4 wasn't tracking behgind the PS2. You and someone else chose to use the whole launch aligning thing to negate my point.

I dont see what part of this you dont understand. March is Q1, October is Q4..........that means PS2 was exclusive to Japan for 3 quarters.

Are you trying to say that it makes any sense to compare sales of a device available in 1 country to sales of a device thats available in multiple continents? Yes, you have to take into account the time of release in various regions to come up with a meaningful comparison.

 

 

"RolStoppable said:

Of course they will. The console market isn't healthy enough that they can afford to not put out more revisions than in previous generations.

Also, PS4 Pro isn't a failure, it's just meh.

 

Intrinsic said:

errrr........ ok.

The PS4 is still tracking better than the best selling console of all time. The XB1 is doing fine and nntendo seems to have right their ship with the switch and yet the console market isn't healthy? 

And the PS4pro is just meh? what wre you expecting it to be or do?

I'm just gonna write all this craziness off as april fools syndrome."

Yes, you brought up the launches aligned discussion.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

If you have unrealistic expectations about what it should sell, and presumptions of what R&D costs were for it, then sure.

To everyone else, it seems to be selling roughly around what was expected. It's aimed at a smaller demographic, but it serves its purpose.



I dont really see Pro as being a failure, its not an amazing success either but definitely not a failure. I would say its essentially the equivalent of the New 3DS.

New 3DS/New 3DS XL account for just under 20% of lifetime sales of the 3DS family and i think PS4 Pro will be similar to that.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.