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fatslob-:O said:
If anybody had concerns about this then they should be their own damn ISPs or find some other ISP who cares enough ...

I very well know the ramifications of relying on an outsider party's infrastructure so I know what I'm getting into when I'm buying Windows, Intel CPUs, or just about any other consumer electronics ...

Except, for many Americans there is no "other ISP" they can switch to due to monopolies in areas.  This is also why after Time Warner bought up the local internet companies my internet went from $20 to $30 to $40 to $60/month over past three years for the exact same speed and worse service.



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Areym said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
Both parties aren't great, but one definitely has a lot higher of a number on the 'dick move' counter than the other.

 Like you said, both parties are dicks, but republicans generally win the "Ass backwards" award. Like, at the very least, democrats are more discrete about their dick moves, republicans just go public with that shit.

OT: this quote from Jeff Flake (Arizona Republican senator) really butters my toast, "the first step toward restoring a consumer-friendly approach to internet privacy regulation that empowers consumers to make informed choices on if and how their data can be shared." Unless my reading comprehension is atrocious, isn't this bill literally doing the exact opposite?

Yes the bill does the exact opposite.  The original net neutraliagity stated that ISPs had to get the user permission first before being able to sell their data.  Of course no ISP ever did that because they knew it was stupid and only the dumbest person would agree to it.  Now with the new rules in place, ISPs do not have to ask the user for any permission.  They can sell to the highest bidder and the limits on what they can collect I believe is very small to nothing at all.  When you read what the Republicans are throwing out there and the new head of the FCC, you would think they believe the average American are complete idiots, Ohh snap we elected Donal Trump as president, never mind.



If my privacy is for sale then i at least want a cut of the money.



This is ridiculously exaggerated. All that happened is cancelling an Obama bill from december 2016 that's in effect since january. Which was clearly rushed and also contains a lot of anti-consumer stuff.



fatslob-:O said:
If anybody had concerns about this then they should be their own damn ISPs or find some other ISP who cares enough ...

I very well know the ramifications of relying on an outsider party's infrastructure so I know what I'm getting into when I'm buying Windows, Intel CPUs, or just about any other consumer electronics ...

So exactly how do people who only have one ISP do what you are suggesting.  Also since all the players do not have to disclose what they are doing how will you know who is selling your info.  What you will see is that now there will be a tiered system where you will need to spend more money for a VPN in order to op out of this crap.  When all said and done, the question is not if you are concerned about what just went down, it's what are you going to do to show you are concerned.

Anyway, Republicans feel people will forget about this and keep voting down party lines so they are good to go or there will be the apologist who just find a way to rationalize what happen.  Either way, we will see if that majority is kept if they continue to go for the money.



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Gourmet said:
This is ridiculously exaggerated. All that happened is cancelling an Obama bill from december 2016 that's in effect since january. Which was clearly rushed and also contains a lot of anti-consumer stuff.

Exactly how is it exaggerated.  First and foremost, it was not a Obama bill, it was an FCC rule that was put in place during Obama presidency.  Second, the rule required internet providers to get cuwtomers permission before sharing their browsing history with other companies.  Now if you do not know the implementation or overturning that rule, then no one really need to go any deeper with you.  Also not sure where you are getting your information from but if you believe the FCC net neutraliglity rules were anti-consumer we probably do not need to discuss anything further on the subject.



So I have to give them Money so that they can sell my data. Great.

 

Except I'm not in the US, but stuff that happens in the US effects all of us in the end.



It’s hard to see this as anything but a major loss for consumers. While reversing the FCC’s privacy rules will technically just maintain the status quo — internet providers have actually been able to sell your web browsing data forever (it’s just not a thing we think about all that much) — they were about to lose permission to keep doing it, unless they got explicit consent or anonymized the info.

http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/28/15080436/us-house-votes-to-let-isps-share-web-browsing-history

Still a step backwards from what little I know.



ktay95 said:
Lol wonder how much somebody is willing to pay to see what weird and fucked up porn ive been searching for

Probably the same thing they had been paying.

 



Machiavellian said:
Gourmet said:
This is ridiculously exaggerated. All that happened is cancelling an Obama bill from december 2016 that's in effect since january. Which was clearly rushed and also contains a lot of anti-consumer stuff.

Exactly how is it exaggerated.  First and foremost, it was not a Obama bill, it was an FCC rule that was put in place during Obama presidency.  Second, the rule required internet providers to get cuwtomers permission before sharing their browsing history with other companies.  Now if you do not know the implementation or overturning that rule, then no one really need to go any deeper with you.  Also not sure where you are getting your information from but if you believe the FCC net neutraliglity rules were anti-consumer we probably do not need to discuss anything further on the subject.

I too am curious, I know little to nothing about the bill, what was anti-consumer in it?