| Ka-pi96 said: Microsoft actually made an effort? When? :O |
das mean
What games have they brought? Can't mock an effort that's not there. If MS wants to get Japanese games, that's great. But it hasn't seemed to be any sort of priority this gen like it was last gen.
Azzanation said:
Exactly how was the 360 an inferior product to the PS3? Last time i checked devs preferred the 360 over the PS3 and offered majority of the better 3rd party games. |
Xbox360 is quite more powerfull, better GPU, shared memory and easier to develop for, I don't get it either, they also are going to make the stronger mid cycle upgrade, seems very unrealistic hate, also the xbox360 was released Earlier then the PS3, cheaper and still more powerfull lol.
I think most of the people who dislike Xbox are still thinking about what that ass off an CEO did in 2013 and the fact the Xbox One has a weaker graphics card, which is true but will change soon enough.
Nobody should mock Phil Spencer and his efforts, he is doing well. She ship has been turned lets see how far he can take it. Theres no way to come back in WW sales but at least they can try to aim for 60-70m xbox sales, unlikely, but who knows.
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No they should be mocked. It's a dead system over there. Those kind of games don't sell on Xbox west or east. If they keep wanting to do something pointless fine. They will just lose money.
| Spade said: Should definitely be mocked... They don't even care much about games anymore. |
State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3, Sea of Thieve etc seems to show that they still care about games.
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| RolStoppable said: As gamer, I say that Microsoft should drop it because they entered the console market for the wrong reasons. The less involved they are, the better. From the perspective of what makes the most sense for Microsoft, I say that it is a waste of time and money for them. They aren't going to sell more hardware with such efforts, at least not enough to make the efforts worth it. Japan is not going to start buying Xbox Ones, the amount of Xbox owners in America and Europe who are interested in Japanese content is negligible. In a broader sense, people who are interested in Japanese content aren't going to pick Xbox as their primary device, so Microsoft's efforts for more multiplats are going to be futile. It's not like Microsoft is the only console manufacturer in such a situation. Nintendo isn't going to convince the AAA industry to make games for them, at the same time people who are interested in the AAA industry games aren't going to pick Nintendo as their primary device; the correct course of action for Nintendo is to focus on the things that actually sell hardware, and that's what Nintendo is doing with Switch. Sony can't compete in the handheld market because their first party isn't good enough; the correct course of action is to exit and focus their efforts on home consoles, and that's what they did. But Microsoft apparently still hasn't understood what's up; they'd be better off by doubling down on what matters for them and that's games for America. Nobody really knows what Microsoft's goal with Xbox is at this point. Microsoft probably isn't even sure what they want to do, hence why Phil took a trip to Japan. I suppose it's good PR, but I don't think it will amount to anything tangible. |
@ Bold 1
I completely agree. I mean, all companies get into the business to make money. However, in both Sony's and Nintendo's case, you had people who were passionate about gaming. Nintendo had/has Miyamoto, who really needs no explanation. And Sony, had Kutaragi, who not only worked on the sound chip for the SNES in secret (which pissed off the execs at Sony, except the CEO, fortunately), but also convinced Sony to continue work on the PS1 after Nintendo pulled out, working long hours because he found it so interesting. And currently, they still have Mark Cerny and Yoshida. MS, on the other hand, got into the market for only two reasons, to make money and to stop the PS from taking over the living room, foolishly thinking it would completely replace the PC. Those are poor reasons to join the market.
@ Bold 2
I don't think it's that they are lacking in 1st party. The great output on the PS4 proves that. I think it's that most of their 1st party don't want to be tied to a handheld with such little power compared to their home consoles. It really restricts the game they are trying to make, especially in terms of graphics and content.
@ OP
The only reason it's being mocked is because it seems so little, so late. Maybe if they had been pushing for this since launch, but they haven't. I doesn't help that they have been cancelling games left and right this past year. Really, it just seems like a vain attempt at padding out their lineup for when the Scorpio hits. I think the future of the Xbox HW department may depend on how well it performs.
Azzanation said:
Exactly how was the 360 an inferior product to the PS3? Last time i checked devs preferred the 360 over the PS3 and offered majority of the better 3rd party games. |
When your console launches with AT LEAST a 33% failure rate, I would consider that an inferior product. An issue MS couldn't fix completely until 3 different chipsets later. And for all of their consoles, there were also things they could have improved by spending a few pennies for each console, most notably the DVD drive stabilization. Just tapping the thing would lead to scratched discs. Hell, small scratches could result from enough ambient vibration. It may have been better for devs, til they got the hang of the PS3, but it was worse for customers. I think it's part of the reason the PS3 was able to pass the 360, even though for the first half of the gen the entry price for the 360 was $200 cheaper. It also lead to more trust in the PS4 at launch, even with MS's 180 on its policies.
thismeintiel said:
When your console launches with AT LEAST a 33% failure rate, I would consider that an inferior product. An issue MS couldn't fix completely until 3 different chipsets later. And for all of their consoles, there were also things they could have improved by spending a few pennies for each console, most notably the DVD drive stabilization. Just tapping the thing would lead to scratched discs. Hell, small scratches could result from enough ambient vibration. It may have been better for devs, til they got the hang of the PS3, but it was worse for customers. I think it's part of the reason the PS3 was able to pass the 360, even though for the first half of the gen the entry price for the 360 was $200 cheaper. It also lead to more trust in the PS4 at launch, even with MS's 180 on its policies. |
Don't tell Yoshida, it's bullshit time again!
I must remind you that the PS3 was an inferior product as well not only due to the high price and late release, but the performance issues that did affect gamers. Add to that the fact that the error was using the wrong type of adhesive in heatsinks and it was dead. It was a production issue. In use it was superior to the PS3. Also, it didn't surpass the Xbox 360 until after the generation was over, so it's technically considered a loss.
Now off your bloody high horse and at least show some respect for the guys who didn't think twice before shelling figures out to fix the mistake someone in the city of Shenzhen had made!
| Shadow1980 said: They put in a good amount of effort a decade ago with the 360. It didn't work. The 360 sold better than the original Xbox, but it still sold poorly and those high-profile Japanese exclusives did not do well at all. Not a single 360 title sold more than 250k copies, and only a handful sold over 100k. Even by the standards of the smaller Japanese console market, that's terrible. It's no surprise that the XBO had far fewer notable Japanese exclusives. And it's not going to improve. Few if any Japanese developers will willingly put out an exclusive title for a system that has an install base of less than 78,000 units in their home country. Japanese XBO owners will still see ports of multiplatform games, as well as MS's own Western output, but exclusive Japanese titles will be exceedingly rare. |
The problem is they were starting to gain ground, then Mattrick replaced the one who had been promoting the incursion into hostile territory and their Japanese incursion lost funding.
And as we know, lack of funding leads to lack of games...
i got a pc and an xbox so im all for this! wouldnt mind trying some jgames. go ms go! woot!
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