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fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:

Do you really think the pigment of your skin makes you superior to someone else? Do you think this line of thinking will take you anywhere positive in life? Ask yourself logically. 

Hmm ... Yes the pigment of your skin colour does make you superior to someone else! 

Hey, don't blame me when you wanted us to ask ourselves logically so we can't exactly ignore the relationship between IQ testing and races discovered by scientists ... 

Or we could just judge people on individual merits? No? The fact is by metric of intelligence relative to contribution to humanity in any way, most people (likely inlcuding you and me) are overwhelmingly mediocre. 



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Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

Because it's a stigmatized and misused vague term.

But I believe that some cultures are vastly superior to others, and I believe in a certain degree of separation from bad cultures.

Of course I don't like certain types of people. And you don't either. It's perfectly normal. What's abnormal is that an ideology like socialism tells people to lie about this.

Actually, I like most everybody. 

I've never looked at someone and said "I don't like you because you are of XYZ characteristic".  

But really when I see people I generally see humanity. I don't see "oh a group of colored people, look at how weird they are". I see "oh there's a mother tending to her child, it's the most basic of human things". 

That might be where you and I differ. I believe people have far more in common and our differences are largely superficial. We all suffer, we all feel, we all are going to age, we all are going to face death.

Would you even want to live on a planet with just one ethnicity, one type of food, one type of history, one type of food? Fuck no from me. 

Do you really think the pigment of your skin makes you superior to someone else? Do you think this line of thinking will take you anywhere positive in life? Ask yourself logically. 

When I see certain people I see bad behaviour. Worthless, selfish individuals who only destroy the wellbeing of others. Some of those people deserve to be put in jail, deserve to be expelled from society, even deserve to be put to death. It's a sickness to want to help those people and benefit them at the expense of good people.

I just explained it to you. Cultures are different. Don't mix a peaceful harmless culture with an aggressive one, because indidviduals of the aggressive one will make the harmonic ones suffer.

And yes, I prefer to live with my own people. I love my own culture. I love other cultures too, but since they aren't compatible with mine I want them to be kept separate.

It has nothing to do with the pigment of skin.



Slimebeast said:
Soundwave said:

Actually, I like most everybody. 

I've never looked at someone and said "I don't like you because you are of XYZ characteristic".  

But really when I see people I generally see humanity. I don't see "oh a group of colored people, look at how weird they are". I see "oh there's a mother tending to her child, it's the most basic of human things". 

That might be where you and I differ. I believe people have far more in common and our differences are largely superficial. We all suffer, we all feel, we all are going to age, we all are going to face death.

Would you even want to live on a planet with just one ethnicity, one type of food, one type of history, one type of food? Fuck no from me. 

Do you really think the pigment of your skin makes you superior to someone else? Do you think this line of thinking will take you anywhere positive in life? Ask yourself logically. 

When I see certain people I see bad behaviour. Worthless, selfish individuals who only destroy the wellbeing of others. Some of those people deserve to be put in jail, deserve to be expelled from society, even deserve to be put to death. It's a sickness to want to help those people and benefit them at the expense of good people.

I just explained it to you. Cultures are different. Don't mix a peaceful harmless culture with an aggressive one, because indidviduals of the aggressive one will make the harmonic ones suffer.

And yes, I prefer to live with my own people. I love my own culture. I love other cultures too, but since they aren't compatible with mine I want them to be kept separate.

It has nothing to do with the pigment of skin.

Which cultures are "incompatible" by the way? "Radical Islam" ok ... but what about the Japanese? Chinese? Indian? Christian African? South American? American? Which culture is "aggressive"? And what about them makes it impossible for you to enjoy your own culture? 

And how long do you think realistically the world is going to exist in a bubble of seperate "cultures" forever? 100 more years? 200 more years? Logically how long do you think that can last? 



SpokenTruth said:
Slimebeast said:

That's the type of ridiculous accusation and stigmatization we see all the time from the left. Perfect example.

What have I said in this thread that suggests I want freedom to oppress?

Everything you've said and you don't even realize it.  You think you're a victim.  You're so used to a level of privilage that equality feels like oppression to you. And as a result of balanced privileges, you want the rights to oppress back at them.  

Tell me, what is it you want to say but can't because you are oppressed?

That's a nonsense response. Could you be specific?

Answer me, what precisely suggests that my motivation is to oppress another human being?



JRPGfan said:
RolStoppable said:

This.

I looked at the transcript, skimmed through the questions and eventually I couldn't be bothered anymore. Looked like people on a witch hunt and talk in circles because they couldn't let it go. I'd like to know what bad things Trump did this time, but it takes too much effort to find something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-XQGtoB6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQ8WFqMVqo

Echo chambers don't do any favors for anyone.  It's that or a one-on-one circle jerk with your favorite bias commentator. 



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LivingMetal said:
JRPGfan said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar-XQGtoB6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQ8WFqMVqo

Echo chambers don't do any favors for anyone.  It's that or a one-on-one circle jerk with your favorite bias commentator. 

You're gonna act like Fox New isn't a thing and they didn't give Obama a hard time? Both sides have their echo chamber. 



Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

When I see certain people I see bad behaviour. Worthless, selfish individuals who only destroy the wellbeing of others. Some of those people deserve to be put in jail, deserve to be expelled from society, even deserve to be put to death. It's a sickness to want to help those people and benefit them at the expense of good people.

I just explained it to you. Cultures are different. Don't mix a peaceful harmless culture with an aggressive one, because indidviduals of the aggressive one will make the harmonic ones suffer.

And yes, I prefer to live with my own people. I love my own culture. I love other cultures too, but since they aren't compatible with mine I want them to be kept separate.

It has nothing to do with the pigment of skin.

Which cultures are "incompatible" by the way? "Radical Islam" ok ... but what about the Japanese? Chinese? Indian? Christian African? South American? American? Which culture is "aggressive"? And what about them makes it impossible for you to enjoy your own culture? 

And how long do you think realistically the world is going to exist in a bubble of seperate "cultures" forever? 100 more years? 200 more years? Logically how long do you think that can last? 

Middle eastern culture is.

If we end up as a minority in our own country, of course that's going to have serious implications on my culture and the habits of my people.

Many protective cultures in our world will exist long in the future. For example Chinese and Japanese culture is going to exist as separate cultures for a long time, much longer than 100 years at least.



Slimebeast said:
SpokenTruth said:

Everything you've said and you don't even realize it.  You think you're a victim.  You're so used to a level of privilage that equality feels like oppression to you. And as a result of balanced privileges, you want the rights to oppress back at them.  

Tell me, what is it you want to say but can't because you are oppressed?

That's a nonsense response. Could you be specific?

Answer me, what precisely suggests that my motivation is to oppress another human being?

Maybe the "white skinned immigrants are awesome, but dark skinned ones should be treated like shit" part for starters? lol.  



Soundwave said:

Or we could just judge people on individual merits? No? The fact is by metric of intelligence relative to contribution to humanity in any way, most people (likely inlcuding you and me) are overwhelmingly mediocre. 

Race is a part of the individual whether you like it or not since the the effects are extremely visible externally speaking ... 

And the biggest contributors to modern civilization are a bunch of scientists and engineers but those communities happen to be dominated by caucasians along with east asians too ...



Slimebeast said:
Soundwave said:

Which cultures are "incompatible" by the way? "Radical Islam" ok ... but what about the Japanese? Chinese? Indian? Christian African? South American? American? Which culture is "aggressive"? And what about them makes it impossible for you to enjoy your own culture? 

And how long do you think realistically the world is going to exist in a bubble of seperate "cultures" forever? 100 more years? 200 more years? Logically how long do you think that can last? 

Middle eastern culture is.

If we end up as a minority in our own country, of course that's going to have serious implications on my culture and the habits of my people.

Many protective cultures in our world will exist long in the future. For example Chinese and Japanese culture is going to exist as separate cultures for a long time, much longer than 100 years at least.

Which country do you live in? In 100 years even Japan and China will be radically different, China already is quite different from just 20 years ago.