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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
The problem is the University letting these trash pieces of shit speak inside the campus. Its mindblowing how in america they let racists, nazis and trash like milo speak in the university.Does enyone here know in europe people like this is allowed to rent a room to spread hate like in america? Not in my country.

Maibe if Hitler got punched a lot in the start and got prevented from speaking things would not have gone that far, so if i nazi gets punched i dont cry about the fact.

What's mindblowing is that you wouldn't let Milo speak in public.

What gives you the right to control what people are allowed to say?

How do you define "hate"? It's such a vague word. It leads to a slippery slope, just like we're already seen many times in all totalitarian nations of history. Those in power decide what is defined as "hate" and shut the opposition down. Justice is served, we're the good guys, we're just opposing "hate"!

I personally think socialism is a hateful ideology. It's the most poisonous and disgusting ideology in our time. Using your logic, if conservatives came to power we could forbid socialists to speak in public if we just labeled it "hate speech".

And the ironic thing is that socialists accuse conservatives and nationalists to undermine democracy. Oh, the stomach.

I would never forbid you to express your opinion. Never.



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Slimebeast said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
The problem is the University letting these trash pieces of shit speak inside the campus. Its mindblowing how in america they let racists, nazis and trash like milo speak in the university.Does enyone here know in europe people like this is allowed to rent a room to spread hate like in america? Not in my country.

Maibe if Hitler got punched a lot in the start and got prevented from speaking things would not have gone that far, so if i nazi gets punched i dont cry about the fact.

What's mindblowing is that you wouldn't let Milo speak in public.

What gives you the right to control what people are allowed to say?

How do you define "hate"? It's such a vague word. It leads to a slippery slope, just like we're already seen many times in all totalitarian nations of history. Those in power decide what is defined as "hate" and shut the opposition down. Justice is served, we're the good guys, we're just opposing "hate"!

I personally think socialism is a hateful ideology. It's the most poisonous and disgusting ideology in our time. Using your logic, if conservatives came to power we could forbid socialists to speak in public if we just labeled it "hate speech".

And the ironic thing is that socialists accuse conservatives and nationalists to undermine democracy. Oh, the stomach.

I would never forbid you to express your opinion. Never.

Socialists have been targeted in the past. Thousands have been arrested in the past, so socialism has already been forbidden in the past. You're acting like that's never happened. And I have no idea how an ideology where the workers should own the means of production is somehow the most disgusting ideology in our time.



VGPolyglot said:
Slimebeast said:

What's mindblowing is that you wouldn't let Milo speak in public.

What gives you the right to control what people are allowed to say?

How do you define "hate"? It's such a vague word. It leads to a slippery slope, just like we're already seen many times in all totalitarian nations of history. Those in power decide what is defined as "hate" and shut the opposition down. Justice is served, we're the good guys, we're just opposing "hate"!

I personally think socialism is a hateful ideology. It's the most poisonous and disgusting ideology in our time. Using your logic, if conservatives came to power we could forbid socialists to speak in public if we just labeled it "hate speech".

And the ironic thing is that socialists accuse conservatives and nationalists to undermine democracy. Oh, the stomach.

I would never forbid you to express your opinion. Never.

Socialists have been targeted in the past. Thousands have been arrested in the past, so socialism has already been forbidden in the past. You're acting like that's never happened. And I have no idea how an ideology where the workers should own the means of production is somehow the most disgusting ideology in our time.

Yes of course socialists have been oppressed in many places in the world in history. But did I say it is right? I just said I would allow GamingWizz' right to speek his opinion no matter what!!

I used the example of socialism, because GamingWizz is a socialist and many socialists want to oppress conservatives like Milo Yannopolous by denying their right to speak in public, by using nasty tricks like labeling it as "hate speech" (such a vague accusation is very hard to defend against, which is why it's so dangerous, and why it is a tactic used by many totalitarian regimes).

And socialism, especially in the form of communism, is bad because it oppresses everyone who doesn't agree, just like the example above about Milo shows.

* communists oppress free speech, they just can't tolerate opposing views. They want to control not just what you say, but also what you think.

* they actively brainwash people as a tactic to reach utopia

* communism is inherently totalitarian and authoritarian.

* they deny the right to my own fucking labour (it belongs to the community).

* Socialists have a twisted, unnaturaL sense of what is just and fair. For example, by denying the differences between the sexes. Socialists tend to ignore that the reason why men and women don't have the exact same salary is because they have different goals in life, and therefore choose different jobs and careers. But no, this can't be tolerated. "Men and women different goals?? Heresy! Such capitalist behaviour must immediately be corrected!".

* socialists tend to favour criminal behaviour because they describe criminals as being victims.

* communists despise our historical and cultural heritage

* History itself has shown how horribly bad and evil communism is in practice. Lenin and the boys were ideologically very puritan communists, and yet look at how that ended up. Same with Che Gue Vara and Cuba etc etc.

Just off the top of my head.



Slimebeast said:
VGPolyglot said:

Socialists have been targeted in the past. Thousands have been arrested in the past, so socialism has already been forbidden in the past. You're acting like that's never happened. And I have no idea how an ideology where the workers should own the means of production is somehow the most disgusting ideology in our time.

Yes of course socialists have been oppressed in many places in the world in history. But did I say it is right? I just said I would allow GamingWizz' right to speek his opinion no matter what!!

I used the example of socialism, because GamingWizz is a socialist and many socialists want to oppress conservatives like Milo Yannopolous by denying their right to speak in public, by using nasty tricks like labeling it as "hate speech" (such a vague accusation is very hard to defend against, which is why it's so dangerous, and why it is a tactic used by many totalitarian regimes).

And socialism, especially in the form of communism, is bad because it oppresses everyone who doesn't agree, just like the example above about Milo shows.

* communists oppress free speech, they just can't tolerate opposing views. They want to control not just what you say, but also what you think.

* they actively brainwash people as a tactic to reach utopia

* communism is inherently totalitarian and authoritarian.

* they deny the right to my own fucking labour (it belongs to the community).

* Socialists have a twisted, unnaturaL sense of what is just and fair. For example, by denying the differences between the sexes. Socialists tend to ignore that the reason why men and women don't have the exact same salary is because they have different goals in life, and therefore choose different jobs and careers. But no, this can't be tolerated. "Men and women different goals?? Heresy! Such capitalist behaviour must immediately be corrected!".

* socialists tend to favour criminal behaviour because they describe criminals as being victims.

* communists despise our historical and cultural heritage

* History itself has shown how horribly bad and evil communism is in practice. Lenin and the boys were ideologically very puritan communists, and yet look at how that ended up. Same with Che Gue Vara and Cuba etc etc.

Just off the top of my head.

Isn't Bannon, Trump's head adviser a self professed Leninist? 

Also if you are so paranoid about communism, does it not strike you as a little odd that Trump is so cozy with Putin and wants NATO scaled back? 



Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

Yes of course socialists have been oppressed in many places in the world in history. But did I say it is right? I just said I would allow GamingWizz' right to speek his opinion no matter what!!

I used the example of socialism, because GamingWizz is a socialist and many socialists want to oppress conservatives like Milo Yannopolous by denying their right to speak in public, by using nasty tricks like labeling it as "hate speech" (such a vague accusation is very hard to defend against, which is why it's so dangerous, and why it is a tactic used by many totalitarian regimes).

And socialism, especially in the form of communism, is bad because it oppresses everyone who doesn't agree, just like the example above about Milo shows.

* communists oppress free speech, they just can't tolerate opposing views. They want to control not just what you say, but also what you think.

* they actively brainwash people as a tactic to reach utopia

* communism is inherently totalitarian and authoritarian.

* they deny the right to my own fucking labour (it belongs to the community).

* Socialists have a twisted, unnaturaL sense of what is just and fair. For example, by denying the differences between the sexes. Socialists tend to ignore that the reason why men and women don't have the exact same salary is because they have different goals in life, and therefore choose different jobs and careers. But no, this can't be tolerated. "Men and women different goals?? Heresy! Such capitalist behaviour must immediately be corrected!".

* socialists tend to favour criminal behaviour because they describe criminals as being victims.

* communists despise our historical and cultural heritage

* History itself has shown how horribly bad and evil communism is in practice. Lenin and the boys were ideologically very puritan communists, and yet look at how that ended up. Same with Che Gue Vara and Cuba etc etc.

Just off the top of my head.

Isn't Bannon, Trump's head adviser a self professed Leninist? 

Also if you are so paranoid about communism, does it not strike you as a little odd that Trump is so cozy with Putin and wants NATO scaled back? 

I don't know much about Bannon, other than that he's supposed to be the main ideologue of the Trump administration. I certainly hope he doesn't see himself as a Leninist lol

Putin is not a communist, I see him more like a continuation of Tsar Russia. A leader of an empire. And modern Russia is quite capitalist, traditionalist and morally conservative.

I don't like Putin or Russia, but they're a good counter-balance against the globalist-leftist hegemony of USA/EU/UN. I want EU to become dismantled and I also want NATO to become somewhat weaker. I want a more dynamic, exciting world with more forces (Russia, China, a stronger Japan, the Third world) that work against the globalist-leftist hegemony.