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Intrinsic on 04 November 2016
Zekkyou said:
Some notes, just to preemptively clear up any possible confusion:

The standard PS4 version of Titanfall 2 runs at a dynamic resolution to help it stick to its 60fps target. It spends most of its time at 1000p (1000p + 16.6% = 1080p), and during highly taxing scenes, can reach as low a 720p (720p + 125% = 1080p). Since the majority of games run at a native 1080p on the PS4, the difference between the standard version of most games and their Pro super-sampled 1080p equivalent won't usually be as significant as in the OT (at least as far as image quality goes).

As for the full Pro version, i'm not aware that we have firm details about it yet. We know its resolution has been increased, but we don't know to what degree, if it's still using a dynamic resolution, checkerboard, etc. If anyone knows more on this front, let me know!

Thats kinda a moot observation tho.... 

If take for instance TF2 averages 900p then what u get is a downsampled image from whatever the average is on the Pro (say maybe 1440p average). if looking at a game that's already running at 1080p on the PS4, then it would be easier for the pro to push that up to say 1800p and downsampled from there. 

Anyways, these are great obvious improvements no doubt. 



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Zekkyou on 04 November 2016
Intrinsic said:
Zekkyou said:
Some notes, just to preemptively clear up any possible confusion:

The standard PS4 version of Titanfall 2 runs at a dynamic resolution to help it stick to its 60fps target. It spends most of its time at 1000p (1000p + 16.6% = 1080p), and during highly taxing scenes, can reach as low a 720p (720p + 125% = 1080p). Since the majority of games run at a native 1080p on the PS4, the difference between the standard version of most games and their Pro super-sampled 1080p equivalent won't usually be as significant as in the OT (at least as far as image quality goes).

As for the full Pro version, i'm not aware that we have firm details about it yet. We know its resolution has been increased, but we don't know to what degree, if it's still using a dynamic resolution, checkerboard, etc. If anyone knows more on this front, let me know!

Thats kinda a moot observation tho.... 

If take for instance TF2 averages 900p then what u get is a downsampled image from whatever the average is on the Pro (say maybe 1440p average). if looking at a game that's already running at 1080p on the PS4, then it would be easier for the pro to push that up to say 1800p and downsampled from there. 

Anyways, these are great obvious improvements no doubt. 

My comment was aimed at people who don't keep up to date with general resolution discussions, but are deciding if they should buy a Pro for their 1080p TV. To use your examples, 900p vs 1080p downsampled from 1440p is going to produce a more dramatic improvement than 1080p to 1080p downsampled from 1800p. Obviously the latter is going to produce the highest overall image quality, but the jump between versions won't be as significant (since downsampling doesn't provide 100% efficient IQ scaling). Just wanted to make that clear to the uninformed :) 



celador on 04 November 2016

Must look so good in 4k

why did I buy a new tv last year



Intrinsic on 04 November 2016

also this.... downsamoled to 1080p too, guess which is the Pro version

 



Intrinsic on 04 November 2016
Zekkyou said:

My comment was aimed at people who don't keep up to date with general resolution discussions, but are deciding if they should buy a Pro for their 1080p TV. To use your examples, 900p vs 1080p downsampled from 1440p is going to produce a more dramatic improvement than 1080p to 1080p downsampled from 1800p. Obviously the latter is going to produce the highest overall image quality, but the jump between versions won't be as significant (since downsampling doesn't provide 100% efficient IQ scaling). Just wanted to make that clear to the uninformed :) 

Ok, got you. 

Check out the shot from uncharted 4 I Just stole right now. That at least shows us a 1080p native game compared to 1080p downsampled.

remember to open in new page 



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Zekkyou on 04 November 2016
Intrinsic said:
Zekkyou said:

My comment was aimed at people who don't keep up to date with general resolution discussions, but are deciding if they should buy a Pro for their 1080p TV. To use your examples, 900p vs 1080p downsampled from 1440p is going to produce a more dramatic improvement than 1080p to 1080p downsampled from 1800p. Obviously the latter is going to produce the highest overall image quality, but the jump between versions won't be as significant (since downsampling doesn't provide 100% efficient IQ scaling). Just wanted to make that clear to the uninformed :) 

Ok, got you. 

Check out the shot from uncharted 4 I Just stole right now. That at least shows us a 1080p native game compared to 1080p downsampled.

remember to open in new page 

Yeah i just saw the UC4 screens, it's still a nice improvement. I'm looking forward to seeing the full jump when i pick up a Pro next year!



Kerotan on 04 November 2016

Ps4 pro titanfall players in for a treat!! Looks great.



Zekkyou on 04 November 2016
Bandorr said:
Zekkyou said:

Are you looking at them in fullscreen? I don't know if you're someone who personally values image quality much, but the difference itself seems fairly clear. Here's a cropped version, with it lined up as close as i can get it: 

I rarely see the difference in graphics or framerates. 720,  900, 1080, 4k, 30fps, 60 etc - I just don't really ever see a difference.

Some times with exact photos side by side I can see a difference - but if the images are different I just generally can't see it.  I have a stigma 'just' bad enough that glasses wouldn't help, but things are still a little off.

In those photo I can see the difference. I just don't think I can remember the difference. As soon as you remove one of the photos I would forget the difference.

That's fair enough, my fiancee is similar. She can see the difference between stuff fairly easily if i put them next to each other, but remove one and she quickly forgets which it is.



craighopkins on 05 November 2016

big difference. Will get a PRO for sure after seeing these screens



craighopkins on 05 November 2016

I want to see The Last Guardian on PS4 vs PRO