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SonytendoAmiibo on 28 September 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Yeah I got my PSTV for $30. I play some of my Vita games on the TV sometimes which is kinda neat. Definitely would not pay any more for it though. And this is what the Nintendo NX supposedly will do. Sony proved there is next to no demand for this kind of device. Good luck Nintendo.

Nope, not even close.

1. PS TV and Vita are not a hybrid device, they are separate devices.

2. The Vita TV/PS TV came years after Vita and doesn't support much of the Vita library.

3. NX is going to be the focus of Nintendo 1st party, while Vita received half assed 1st party games. It didn't even get a Gran Turismo.

4. NX is being built as a hybrid console, Sony never did that.

 

I can't argue with you on the fact that Sony never really gave the Vita the support they should have. And yes, EVERY GAME Nintendo puts on the NX will work as a home console AND portable game. Nintendo will figure out how to do it where Sony failed. But there is a very large number of Vita games that do work on PSTV. The games that don't are because of licensing issues. I will get the NX day one, no matter how crazy the system is. I love it when Nintendo goes crazy.

   

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kitler53 on 28 September 2016

playstation TV would have been a great product.

too bad what they released was playstation vita TV.



Mr Puggsly on 28 September 2016
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Nope, not even close.

1. PS TV and Vita are not a hybrid device, they are separate devices.

2. The Vita TV/PS TV came years after Vita and doesn't support much of the Vita library.

3. NX is going to be the focus of Nintendo 1st party, while Vita received half assed 1st party games. It didn't even get a Gran Turismo.

4. NX is being built as a hybrid console, Sony never did that.
I can't argue with you on the fact that Sony never really gave the Vita the support they should have. And yes, EVERY GAME Nintendo puts on the NX will work as a home console AND portable game. Nintendo will figure out how to do it where Sony failed. But there is a very large number of Vita games that do work on PSTV. The games that don't are because of licensing issues. I will get the NX day one, no matter how crazy the system is. I love it when Nintendo goes crazy.

NX is executing something Sony never did. Its more like Sony tinkered with the idea of hybrid console via PSP and Vita, but never delivered.

Licensing issues isn't the reason why many Vita titles aren't on PS TV, atleast not entirely. The REAL problem is many games were designed to utilize Vita features like the camera, touch screen, touch pads, etc. The PS TV didn't exist when many games were developed, so these titles simply weren't designed for a basic gamepad. This is why we can't play 1st party games like Uncharted:GA, Resistance, Unit 13, or Gravity Rush on a PS TV.

Developers could patch games to work with PS TV properly, but many obviously didn't feel it was worthwhile.

NX appeals to me because I like portable devices and its going to be the primary focus of Nintendo 1st party. I think it has the potential to do very well, depending on price.



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SonytendoAmiibo on 28 September 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:
I can't argue with you on the fact that Sony never really gave the Vita the support they should have. And yes, EVERY GAME Nintendo puts on the NX will work as a home console AND portable game. Nintendo will figure out how to do it where Sony failed. But there is a very large number of Vita games that do work on PSTV. The games that don't are because of licensing issues. I will get the NX day one, no matter how crazy the system is. I love it when Nintendo goes crazy.

NX is executing something Sony never did. Its more like Sony tinkered with the idea of hybrid console via PSP and Vita, but never delivered.

Licensing issues isn't the reason why many Vita titles aren't on PS TV, atleast not entirely. The REAL problem is many games were designed to utilize Vita features like the camera, touch screen, touch pads, etc. The PS TV didn't exist when many games were developed, so these titles simply weren't designed for a basic gamepad. This is why we can't play 1st party games like Uncharted:GA, Resistance, Unit 13, or Gravity Rush on a PS TV.

Developers could patch games to work with PS TV properly, but many obviously didn't feel it was worthwhile.

NX appeals to me because I like portable devices and its going to be the primary focus of Nintendo 1st party. I think it has the potential to do very well, depending on price.

 

You can't play Gravity Rush on PSTV because the deveopers wanted you to buy Gravity Rush Remastered on the the PS4. I got both versions and loved it. Can't wait for GR 2.

   

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Mr Puggsly on 28 September 2016
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Mr Puggsly said:

NX is executing something Sony never did. Its more like Sony tinkered with the idea of hybrid console via PSP and Vita, but never delivered.

Licensing issues isn't the reason why many Vita titles aren't on PS TV, atleast not entirely. The REAL problem is many games were designed to utilize Vita features like the camera, touch screen, touch pads, etc. The PS TV didn't exist when many games were developed, so these titles simply weren't designed for a basic gamepad. This is why we can't play 1st party games like Uncharted:GA, Resistance, Unit 13, or Gravity Rush on a PS TV.

Developers could patch games to work with PS TV properly, but many obviously didn't feel it was worthwhile.

NX appeals to me because I like portable devices and its going to be the primary focus of Nintendo 1st party. I think it has the potential to do very well, depending on price.
You can't play Gravity Rush on PSTV because the deveopers wanted you to buy Gravity Rush Remastered on the the PS4. I got both versions and loved it. Can't wait for GR 2.

No, PS TV came years before the PS4 remaster of Gravity Rush.

Gravity Rush and Tear Away were designed for Vita's unique hardware. They stripped that out on the PS4 remasters.



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SonytendoAmiibo on 28 September 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:
You can't play Gravity Rush on PSTV because the deveopers wanted you to buy Gravity Rush Remastered on the the PS4. I got both versions and loved it. Can't wait for GR 2.

No, PS TV came years before the PS4 remaster of Gravity Rush.

Gravity Rush and Tear Away were designed for Vita's unique hardware. They stripped that out on the PS4 remasters.

 

What features were removed from the Vita version? The PS4 version uses the six axis aiming of the DS4. The touch screen was hardly used with Vita.

   

Hey! They got SONY on my amiibo! Wait a minute. Two great gaming tastes that game great together!

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Mr Puggsly on 29 September 2016
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Mr Puggsly said:

No, PS TV came years before the PS4 remaster of Gravity Rush.

Gravity Rush and Tear Away were designed for Vita's unique hardware. They stripped that out on the PS4 remasters.
What features were removed from the Vita version? The PS4 version uses the six axis aiming of the DS4. The touch screen was hardly used with Vita.

Its simple... THE VITA VERSION of Gravity Rush didn't translate well to the PS3 gamepad so its not supported on PS TV. Whle the PS4 remaster was built for the PS4's gamepad.

There were actual gameplay commands that were done via the touch screen. Such as evading, sliding, and finishing moves. Some games like Gravity Rush would require patches to support PS TV properly, so many developers didn't bother.

I hope that answer is sufficient because I don't know how to make it anymore clear.



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