Yes, the 1080 will not get maxed out current games consistently over 60 fps and neither does the Titan. The Volta Titan should be able to do this though.

You can get a 980ti with good cooling and well overclocked up to 8 TFLOPS which is double the PS4 pro for less than 400€. The Inno3d iChill does this for example easily.

Agreed, it doesn't manage to run them at 60fps consistently.

Oh yeah, those GTX 980Ti factory overclocked beasts that can beat the stock 980Ti by nearly 30% and almost a GTX 1080! If really you can find one for 400 Euros, wow, that's crazy bang for your buck.

It's so sad that the 10-series overclocks so bad while the 900-series was a monster. With the process shrink and all, I wonder why?!

You really wonder why? Pascal is nothing more than a massively overclocked Maxwell. 95% of the performance boost over Maxwell comes from the clock and not the architecture. It's harder to overclock something that's already so high clocked. For example the 1080 has 10% less shaders than the 980ti but to make up for it has a whooping 60% higher clock.

How can it be just Maxwell on a smaller process if Nvidia boasted at the reveal that the research budget for the 1080 was billions of dollars and their most expensive GPU to develop ever?

A lot of that research went to Volta and the most expensive part of it was the shrink which is always very expensive. Increasing yields and optimizing manufacturing techniques always takes a lot of time and money.

The architectural move from Kepler to Maxwell was a gigantic leap and showed what kind of performance you still could get in the old 28nm process. The change from Maxwell to Pascal is basically nothing. Volta will be the next big leap. It will not have the same performance jump but it will lay the groundwork for optimizing the 16nm process and finally feature HBM2 for mainstream cards, one of the most important components when it comes to 4k and above. It will most likely feature around the same clocks so it's basically forced to innovate in chip design to gain performance over Pascal.

Compare it to Intel's Tick Tock model where they basically change nothing at the shrink but will still get better performance and greater efficiency through clock and packing density.

Sony isn't even a competitor to Nvidia, let alone a specialized graphics chip designer ...

The question OP should be asking is Microsoft forcing Nvidia's hand since that makes far more sense than Sony ...

Interesting. So the CEO kind of lied at the presentation then if the research actually went to Volta lol.

I didn't know the shrink was so expensive to Nvidia research-wise, because that would be on the foundry. And the foundry then recoups its investments in the process shrink by charging Nvidia for each GPU manufactured, but that would never be counted as R&D costs for Nvidia.

And Pascal was extremely hyped before release, not only because of the process shrink. So I don't get how all of a sudden Volta is the one where architecture miracles are supposed to be made. But I hope you're right.

So your comparing a console that wont be running native 4k at medium settings on most of its games to a card company selling millions of GPUs that can render native 4k with high to Ultra settings and over 30 frames?
Why do we keep comparing the two?
Might aswell say the X1 Slim will force Nvidea to reduce its prices because it upscales 4k.