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Goodnightmoon said:
Hynad said:

Lots of BS in that. Nothing really unexpected in that comment though, coming from you.

But I will only ask about one point:

The Last of Us
Beyond Two Souls
Heavy Rain
Gran Turismo
Bloodborne
The Order: 1886
etc...

Are games that target teenagers? I would understand if you were talking about Nintendo, since they exclusively make family friendly/oriented games, but Sony? Nope.  They make games that target multiple groups of age. So unless there is something I'm missing, I will ask you to elaborate.

Yes for me most of their marketing and games started to be focused mainly for teenagers since ps2, wich is the worse you can do for me, I rather watch a kids or a family movie rather than a teenage one, even more with videogames. And btw half of the games you are using as exemple are pretty bad and had pretty lame stories for the easily impresionable that doesnt know much about cinema like the teenagers, even when the story is the main and sometimes only focus of the game, wich goes to my point about too much focus on cinematic experiences. The other ones... well I admit The last of Us is overall pretty mature, Bloodborne mostly too I guess, there are exceptions everywhere though.

I'm only giving my opinion on a thread where the OP is clearly asking for it, I'm sorry if you dont like it but you dont need to call it bullshit, is not like I'm attacking anyone or saying something out of place.

No. Sony's marketing is targetting everyone, with different products, for different groups.

But you'd rather play games targetting kids... That explains something.



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hershel_layton said:
DannyDesario said:

You'd rather watch Cars, Lion King, Frozen, ect. over Donnie Darko, Superbad, Dead Poets Society, Neighors, 21 Jumpstreet, Scott Pilgrim v. the world, Juno, Perks of Being a Wallflower, boyhood, Zombieland ect.?... You are easily impressionable. lol.

Why did you mention 2 of the worst Disney movies? No one likes cars or frozen

 

The lion king, Mulan, The Jungle book(live action and animation), tarzan, toy Story, and many other movies are all for children. 

Regardless, he tried to imply teenage demographic media has a high ratio of bad narrative in comparison to good narrative.  I'll take Juno, Donnie Darko, Dead Poet Society, Boyhood and Perks of Being a Wallflower's narratives over all those Disney films.



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Hynad said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Yes for me most of their marketing and games started to be focused mainly for teenagers since ps2, wich is the worse you can do for me, I rather watch a kids or a family movie rather than a teenage one, even more with videogames. And btw half of the games you are using as exemple are pretty bad and had pretty lame stories for the easily impresionable that doesnt know much about cinema like the teenagers, even when the story is the main and sometimes only focus of the game, wich goes to my point about too much focus on cinematic experiences. The other ones... well I admit The last of Us is overall pretty mature, Bloodborne mostly too I guess, there are exceptions everywhere though.

I'm only giving my opinion on a thread where the OP is clearly asking for it, I'm sorry if you dont like it but you dont need to call it bullshit, is not like I'm attacking anyone or saying something out of place.

No. Sony's marketing is targetting everyone, with different products, for different groups.

But you'd rather play games targetting kids... That explains something.

Very mature conclusion.

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Goodnightmoon said:
Hynad said:

No. Sony's marketing is targetting everyone, with different products, for different groups.

But you'd rather play games targetting kids... That explains something.

Very mature conclusion.

You should reread the second comment I quoted from you.

You're the last person on these forums that should question other people's maturity. 



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I’ll limit myself to the PlayStation unit of Sony and start with my biggest gripes:

Cinematic storytelling at the expense of gameplay. This is more aimed at Naughty Dog. They’re one of my favorite developers and that's why Uncharted 4 disappointed me. After having played The Last of Us that in my opinion had a perfect balance of gameplay and cutscenens, Uncharted 4 took control away too often and when it finally gave control back, the game still led you on. If God of War IV and Days Gone will take inspiration from Naughty Dog, I hope it’ll be from TLOU. I don’t want any of their future games to be as cinematic as Uncharted 4. I want them to tell more of the story through gameplay. Meaningful cutscenes are fine though. Even Wario Land had long cutscenes in the start of the game but still those games were some of my favorites on my GameBoy.

Japan Studio's lacking output. I know that Western games overtook Japanese in market share early in the 7th generation but I want Sony to strengthen their 1st party Japanese output now that they're back on track and stronger than ever. They're definitely improving with TLG, GR2 and GT Sport this year but I'm not happy before I get Ape Escape 4 and The Legend of Dragoon 2.

Too few family friendly 1st party games. I know I can’t blame Sony for the loss of Crash and Spyro (my favorite childhood PS mascots) as they never owned them in the first place and as they can’t force Activision to sell them but we need to see more of their 3D platformers return. Ratchet & Clank (2016) was great and it hopefully showed Sony that there’s still demand among PS fans.

No sustained AA and A 1st party support on Vita. I love my PS Vita and I don't think the quality of its library is that far from that of the Wii U which gets a lot of praise for its games. But still the support from Sony could’ve been far better. I completely understand why they lowered the budgets when expensive games like Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Killzone: Mercenary hardly moved any units and after smartphones and their "free" "games" invaded handheld gaming but they should've continued to develop/fund smaller AA and A games for it like Patapon, LocoRoco, Daxter, Ape Escape, Puppeteer, Knack and a port of Gran Turismo 6. Those games would've been faster and less expensive to develop and would've fitted the handheld medium a lot better than those home console look-alikes. No matter what the Vita would've probably never achieved the same success as the PSP but they could've bought a studio like Level-5 prior to Vita's launch. While not developing many AAA games Level-5 develops a bunch of great AA handheld games which is just what the Vita is missing.

Dark Cloud + Chronicle
Rogue Galaxy
Yo-Kai Watch
Danball Senki
Jeanne d'Arc
White Knight Chronicles
Ni no Kuni
Wonder Flick
Professor Layton
Inazuma Eleven
etc.

Regarding memory cards, they should've been far more affordable but it hasn't been a huge personal issue as I bought my 64GB memory card at nippon-yasan.

 

Smaller:

Poor rubber on DualShock 4's thumbsticks. The DS4 is my favorite controller but I really hope they make the rubber sticks more solid on the rumored upgraded DS4 launching alongside PS4 Neo.

No displaying of total time spent playing. I'd like to see if my favorite games are also the ones receiving the most play time.

No wishlisting and gifting in PS Store. I know there's wishlisting in the browser based PS Store but why not on the PS4? And why not let customers spend money gifting each other?

No movie (both buy and rent), TV series and music in PS Store outside of US/UK. Sony creates a ton of entertainment besides games. Why not sell it themselves? More content for customers and bigger profits for Sony. Sony's own services like Crackle, PS Vue, PS Movies and PS Now need to be available worldwide asap on both PS4 and Vita.

 

 

Personally, free online multiplayer is not important as I subscribed to PS+ long before PS4 launched due to the free games but I see why it could be a big issue for Nintendo and PC gamers who consider buying a PS4.

PS3 backwards compatibility is also not that important for me as I still have my PS3 plugged in and it probably wouldn’t be complete BC anyway with support for all of my 200+ PS3 games.



For me its gotta be their underachieving OS on the PS4. I personally feel its such a big wasted opportunity. The console has more power than most laptops and PCs, and a bare bones OS and architecture that literally allows devs or app developers a lot of room to build apps.

The web browser should be significantly better than it is.

It should support apps like Plex and Kodi without any hoops jumping.

Basically it has the potential to be the ultimate set top box in the living room but sonys OS engineers just don't seem to get it. There is no reason why i should biy a HTPC that is less powerful than a PS4 but uet can do more "app wise" than it.



iTzCharlie said:
Fanbase

 

bunchanumbers said:
iTzCharlie said:
Fanbase

QFT.

 

collint0101 said:
Also the fanbase is annoying as shit.

 

Ugh. Please refrain from such shitty generalizations.

These comments first and foremost paint yourselves as the toxic ones.



Mike_L said:
iTzCharlie said:
Fanbase

 

bunchanumbers said:

QFT.

 

collint0101 said:
Also the fanbase is annoying as shit.

 

Ugh. Please refrain from such shitty generalizations.

These comments first and foremost paint yourselves as the toxic ones.

The ironic thing here is that they're making their fanbase look far worse by acting that way in this thread.  Just laugh and ignore that kind of behavior.  They're doing enough damage to themselves on their own.



I got one!

Sometimes my power goes out due to bad weather. The PS4 is in standby mode some times. If I suffer a power outage, the PS4 goes through this "Your console wasn't turned off properly" "You may damage blah blah" spiel. It's the only electronic device (aside from my ps3) that does this!

My ps3 did that all of the time before it finally YLoD. Why does Sony feel the need to include this in their consoles? It makes me paranoid and afraid to use standby mode.