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danielrdp said:
Ganoncrotch said:

No mention of harddrives? Gonna guess you didn't get yourself a SSD in there, I would advise you to check over the order and see if it's possible at any point to add one for the OS at the very least, a 240gb SSD now can cost you under €100 and really add a ton of value to your PC, at 240gb you'll be able to keep windows, any crucial programs and a selection of games on the SSD storage for ultra fast boot times and loading in those games.

Cannot recommend getting a SSD enough to any PC user.

I did get a 240gb SSD for the OS, but I do need to buy a second HDD. I was thinking about buying a 1T SSHD at some point next month and installing it myself. 

Honestly if you are going to use that for just media like mp3s or avi files you'll gain very little from it being a SSHD but if you are going to drop a good deal of steam library on it which includes regularly played games you might, Honestly though I would say look to either spending the HDD money on standard drives over SSHDs if you already have your OS and primary programs on the 240gb ssd



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Ganoncrotch said:
danielrdp said:

I did get a 240gb SSD for the OS, but I do need to buy a second HDD. I was thinking about buying a 1T SSHD at some point next month and installing it myself. 

Honestly if you are going to use that for just media like mp3s or avi files you'll gain very little from it being a SSHD but if you are going to drop a good deal of steam library on it which includes regularly played games you might, Honestly though I would say look to either spending the HDD money on standard drives over SSHDs if you already have your OS and primary programs on the 240gb ssd

Yup agreed, SSHD is useful as your OS drive over a HDD but if you have an SSD already for running the OS on there really is little benefit in having an SSHD over a HDD for general storage.



Ganoncrotch said:
danielrdp said:

I did get a 240gb SSD for the OS, but I do need to buy a second HDD. I was thinking about buying a 1T SSHD at some point next month and installing it myself. 

Honestly if you are going to use that for just media like mp3s or avi files you'll gain very little from it being a SSHD but if you are going to drop a good deal of steam library on it which includes regularly played games you might, Honestly though I would say look to either spending the HDD money on standard drives over SSHDs if you already have your OS and primary programs on the 240gb ssd

If he wants to play more than just a few games on that, he'll need to install them on the bigger disk because 240 GB isn't really that much. If it's an SSHD, it should help him out a bit. Apparently there's also the possibility to get an SSD + HDD and use the SSD as swap. Basically it works by dedicating the SSD for swap, and using the HDD for everything. On some level (OS level?), the computer determines which files to (temporarily) put on the SSD and when. The good thing about that setup is that a very small SSD should suffice. Disclaimer: I haven't tried that setup myself, but I thought it sounded interesting.



That's a solid build. Don't go for HDD. Go for SSD's.



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I would avoid that PSU.
Novatech Power Station is a bit of a gamble, they typically just re-brand other companies hardware, but the gamble is that it literally could be anything.

Looking at the 600w model, it doesn't even output 600w on the 12v rail, it only does 500w.
It's based on the Sirfa reference model, but uses teapo capacitors, which are pretty mediocre... And even horrible if your PC runs fairly warm.

Get a decent Corsair and be done with, it will outlast that PC and end up in your next.
Not only that but you got a gaming motherboard with multiple PCI-E Slots, you might as well get a high-end PSU to take advantage of multiple GPU's later if that is your intention.

Core i5 6600K 3.5ghz is a solid choice. You could save a bit more cash and go with the 6400/6500/6600-non K variants if you don't intend to overclock.

Ram is solid. Nice low-profile heatsink, good price and capacity.

As for the Motherboard... I would personally go for an Asus Sabertooth out of reliability and longer warranty length.
Or save some cash and go with the MSI H170 Gaming M3.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Founders Edition is a solid choice, but you can do better.
You could go with the MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Armor OC 8GB. It's faster and has better cooling.

Or... If you are like me and want a metal back plate so the GPU's PCB doesn't warp over time... Then go for the ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1070 Strix Gaming 8GB OC. It's faster, more reliable, but also more expensive.

MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X 8GB is another good choice, same with the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 G1 Gaming 8GB.

And I can't believe I have recommended nVidia Cards. D:

You could also go with two Radeon 480's in Crossfire for less money than the Geforce 1070. If you play your (pun) cards right.

Don't forget to sprinkle some SSD too.



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Zkuq said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Honestly if you are going to use that for just media like mp3s or avi files you'll gain very little from it being a SSHD but if you are going to drop a good deal of steam library on it which includes regularly played games you might, Honestly though I would say look to either spending the HDD money on standard drives over SSHDs if you already have your OS and primary programs on the 240gb ssd

If he wants to play more than just a few games on that, he'll need to install them on the bigger disk because 240 GB isn't really that much. If it's an SSHD, it should help him out a bit. Apparently there's also the possibility to get an SSD + HDD and use the SSD as swap. Basically it works by dedicating the SSD for swap, and using the HDD for everything. On some level (OS level?), the computer determines which files to (temporarily) put on the SSD and when. The good thing about that setup is that a very small SSD should suffice. Disclaimer: I haven't tried that setup myself, but I thought it sounded interesting.

Just the standard SSHD stuff like around the 1TB mark is probably going to have around the 8gb portion of SSD/Flash memory, that will barely be enough to cache some portions of big titles, the way SSHD's work it will probably spend more time trying to determine what of the 1TB of games on the drive he actually uses frequently to stick into that space than delivering a noteworthy performance boost.

The reason SSHDs are good for the OS drive is just because a lot of programs which are used everyday like IE, firefox, chrome, vlc, itunes, or even vital kernal files are all fairly small in size and can make good use of the flash portion of those drives, sitting happily on them for the frequent and key times when they are called upon, A steam library of 50+GB games is just not going to see the same benefit as a few 100-200mb program files would.

As for your SSD/HDD combo idea, it sounds strange but interesting indeed but from the word "noob" in the thread title OP is probably not going to set that system up right now :)

 

Also @ OP you mention you will install a harddrive later on after you get it, you should know that adding a SATA harddrive to a PC is absolutely cakewalk stuff, if you are worried about having to find drivers or anything, you don't have to, heck you can even add a internal HDD while a PC is on if you wanted to as SATA drives are hotswappable (I wouldn't but still they're about as hard to install as your USB thumb drives!, just happens to be clicked into the motherboard instead of a usb port). It's just a case of connect the drive and wait for windows to give it a scan and add it to your PC alongside your normal drive, at the very most you might need to assign it a letter... but you probably wont have to do it, but if you do, just ask on here and someone will help you out with it I'm sure :)



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Ganoncrotch said:

As for your SSD/HDD combo idea, it sounds strange but interesting indeed but from the word "noob" in the thread title OP is probably not going to set that system up right now :)

Yep, you're absolutely right. It should be pretty easy to set up, but it's probably not something a total noob would want to do. And I believe the SSD+HDD combo is pretty much equivalent to having an SSHD, with the exception that you get to choose the size of the SSD.



Zkuq said:
Ganoncrotch said:

As for your SSD/HDD combo idea, it sounds strange but interesting indeed but from the word "noob" in the thread title OP is probably not going to set that system up right now :)

Yep, you're absolutely right. It should be pretty easy to set up, but it's probably not something a total noob would want to do. And I believe the SSD+HDD combo is pretty much equivalent to having an SSHD, with the exception that you get to choose the size of the SSD.

They can actually both compliment each other, SSD is going to be faster than an SSHD, SSHD will be faster than a standard Mechanical drive. You can have all 3 in a system just fine.

Just because you got an SSD... It doesn't make the SSHD pointless, they are seperate entities, it's not like the SSD will accellerate the retreival of data from a mechanical drive.

I would still go for a larger drive than only 1 Terabyte... My Steam Library is several Terabytes large now, games are getting bigger. Get a Western Digital Black 3Tb and be happy for a few years, in conjunction with a 240Gb SSD, your storage needs should be sorted.



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Very solid computer. You'll be able to play at 1080p/@60fps for several years now(hopefully).

I'd recommend getting the Xbox One Elite Controller. I thought it was overrated, but when I actually got to play with it, I realized why there was so much praise for it. Of course, getting a good mouse and keyboard is probably smarter to do if you don't want to be stuck with a cheap keyboard for other activities on your pc.



 

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Save yourself possible future problems and get a recognized and well respected PSU. It's a very important part of your system. As it directs power to everything else, you want something as dependable as possible.