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bigtakilla on 27 June 2016
midrange said:
bigtakilla said:

You can complain, but complain about the real issues which you do have one solid issue you mentioned, the architecture.

Even if LoZ was only as praised as the rest of the top E3 showings, that's kind of my point. It isn't being held back because of its power to wow people, hell their are games praised that wish the 20s were the lowest they hit (FF XV, and Scalebound anyone?) and Zelda had no frame drops. 

No, it is being held back. The only reason why it looks good is because Nintendo is focusing on ONE game. If this game wasn't being held back by hardware, why has it come out 2 YEARS late?

asode from architecture, gpu is a major concern

Zelda's have always gotten held back. They literally never release on time.



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midrange on 27 June 2016
bigtakilla said:
midrange said:

No, it is being held back. The only reason why it looks good is because Nintendo is focusing on ONE game. If this game wasn't being held back by hardware, why has it come out 2 YEARS late?

asode from architecture, gpu is a major concern

Zelda's have always gotten held back. They literally never release on time.

2 years is late for any game in any franchise. Likewise, many other wii u games got delayed and cancelled for hardware issues. May I remind you of all the droughts.



bigtakilla on 27 June 2016
midrange said:
bigtakilla said:

Zelda's have always gotten held back. They literally never release on time.

2 years is late for any game in any franchise. Likewise, many other wii u games got delayed and cancelled for hardware issues. May I remind you of all the droughts.

The second year was to shift focus to the NX for Zelda.

And if you want a list of every game ever that has gotten delayed, you'd have one really massive list. Tons of games get delayed, it's just a fact of life.



midrange on 27 June 2016
bigtakilla said:
midrange said:

2 years is late for any game in any franchise. Likewise, many other wii u games got delayed and cancelled for hardware issues. May I remind you of all the droughts.

The second year was to shift focus to the NX for Zelda.

And if you want a list of every game ever that has gotten delayed, you'd have one really massive list. Tons of games get delayed, it's just a fact of life.

2 years is 2 years. I didn't see twilight princess delayed by 2 years and that was moved to the wii.

And yes, I would like a list of every major game delayed by 2 years. Delays are common, but not by this length



Hynad on 27 June 2016
bigtakilla said:

You can complain, but complain about the real issues which you do have one solid issue you mentioned, the architecture.

Even if LoZ was only as praised as the rest of the top E3 showings, that's kind of my point. It isn't being held back because of its power to wow people, hell their are games praised that wish the 20s were the lowest they hit (FF XV, and Scalebound anyone?) and Zelda had no frame drops. 

What? Yes, Zelda did have frame drops. As per Digital Foundry's analysis. 



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Pavolink on 27 June 2016

Because Zelda.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


Azzanation on 27 June 2016
Aeolus451 said:
160rmf said:

LOL! I am sorry, language mistake. I am still learning english. i made a confusion with "ganging up". lol

Yes, i think the same can be applied to him, but he wasn't the one talking about being blinded by nostalgia. His historical testify seems very plausible, because i somewhat identify with him during the 90's, game rental was pretty big that time and games were so much expensive where i live, so you had to be absolutely right about your purchase.

And i only had contact with fanboyism accidentally accessing a gaming forum 4 years ago. I am yet to see fanboy wars IRL. So what you are saying is kinda funny to me.

I have to agree with pokoko on this. Brand power existed just as much then as it does now. You were also more likely to get shovelware back then too. It was far more difficult to make an informed decision on a game. All you had to go by was marketing ploys/reviews in gaming mags and heresay. Now we have something called youtube where you can look up a multitude of reviews, gameplay vids, trailers, demos. etc and make a decision based off of that. Nostalgia is coloring Azzanation's perspective of the "good ol' days". Games are infinitely better as a whole than in the 80's and 90's.

Not necessary, in the early days of gaming advertisements were also a lot rare. Video Game TV adds weren’t something you would see every day, in fact I barely saw any in the Nintendo/Sega days, and while Magazines were the only real way to see a games review, not many kids would go out and buy a $10 mag. These days you’re actually flooded with many types of ways of advertisements and coverage. It’s heaps easier selling a game to people today than it was back than because (again) gamers would rent games and movies and would place their judgement during that period. Today I see signs, buses, movie ads, commercials, posters, trains, shops, Youtude, Internet, Magazines etc hyping and advertising games. Yes you’re right it’s easier to find a games review today than it was back then, but how many gamers would go out and buy a game today because (Said Company) made it? Regardless of review scores. The point is entertainment systems like consoles weren’t household products, not everyone would have one, it was expensive and the lack of coverage didn’t help the market at all. A good indie game can sell a million easy due to the advantages of today just off hype alone.



bigtakilla on 27 June 2016
midrange said:
bigtakilla said:

The second year was to shift focus to the NX for Zelda.

And if you want a list of every game ever that has gotten delayed, you'd have one really massive list. Tons of games get delayed, it's just a fact of life.

2 years is 2 years. I didn't see twilight princess delayed by 2 years and that was moved to the wii.

And yes, I would like a list of every major game delayed by 2 years. Delays are common, but not by this length

Wii came out only one year after announcement ie: they didn't need to delay it two years.



160rmf on 29 June 2016
Aeolus451 said:
160rmf said:

LOL! I am sorry, language mistake. I am still learning english. i made a confusion with "ganging up". lol

Yes, i think the same can be applied to him, but he wasn't the one talking about being blinded by nostalgia. His historical testify seems very plausible, because i somewhat identify with him during the 90's, game rental was pretty big that time and games were so much expensive where i live, so you had to be absolutely right about your purchase.

And i only had contact with fanboyism accidentally accessing a gaming forum 4 years ago. I am yet to see fanboy wars IRL. So what you are saying is kinda funny to me.

I have to agree with pokoko on this. Brand power existed just as much then as it does now. You were also more likely to get shovelware back then too. It was far more difficult to make an informed decision on a game. All you had to go by was marketing ploys/reviews in gaming mags and heresay. Now we have something called youtube where you can look up a multitude of reviews, gameplay vids, trailers, demos. etc and make a decision based off of that. Nostalgia is coloring Azzanation's perspective of the "good ol' days". Games are infinitely better as a whole than in the 80's and 90's.

 

I am sorry, but Brand Power is stronger now than it never was. The image of those crazy people running like animals to get a PS4 will never cease of my mind.

 

 

We reap what we sow