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Captain_Yuri said:

It could work if it's within a given time limit. Like if they say it expires within 3-6 months after launch, then it might be fine since they would just release the big sellers after those months. And generally, launch is pretty eh in terms of software so it would be a good incentive for the customers to buy it.

But if its past 6 months after launch or for the lifetime of the NX... Then that would be a pretty big money sink...

 

How does a bundle suddenly become a money sink after an arbitrary amount of time? It's usually later in a system's life that it gets bundles, and it's almost always bundled with big sellers.

Cause one of the ways that Nintendo makes money is through software sales... A good number of people who are gonna buy the NX are going to be Nintendo fans and they are the ones who are also going to buy games like MK, SSB, Mario 3d, etc etc etc. Now if people save their free game for those, suddenly, Nintendo is losing loads of sales they otherwise would have gotten if they didn't have that deal... And suddenly, the development costs would outweigh the profits and considering those big games generally sell a craycray amount, it would not be worth it.

And not to mention, Nintendo is a business and the investors would facepalm if its for the entire life of the console due to that. They would basically be giving out their big game for free. But if they leave it within a limited time frame, then they wouldn't be losing profits in their big hitters because they would time it accordingly.



                  

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Soundwave said:
It's not that terrible of an idea, but I don't think bundled titles are Nintendo's issue.

If you look at the Wii U, basically all of the major games were bundled at some point -- Mario 3D World, NSMBU, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Smash Bros. U, Mario Maker, hell even Zombi U.

Still didn't really sell the system no matter which bundle they had.

Nintendo's problems are with their overall software ecosystem as a whole.

 

I didn't say that it was, the issue I'm fearing is people taking a wait and see approach, so NX needs to be a must buy, and a bundle that's leagues better than any before it should help with that.



Captain_Yuri said:

Cause one of the ways that Nintendo makes money is through software sales... A good number of people who are gonna buy the NX are going to be Nintendo fans and they are the ones who are also going to buy games like MK, SSB, Mario 3d, etc etc etc. Now if people save their free game for those, suddenly, Nintendo is losing loads of sales they otherwise would have gotten if they didn't have that deal... And suddenly, the development costs would outweigh the profits and considering those big games generally sell a craycray amount, it would not be worth it.

And not to mention, Nintendo is a business and the investors would facepalm if its for the entire life of the console due to that. They would basically be giving out their big game for free. But if they leave it within a limited time frame, then they wouldn't be losing profits in their big hitters because they would time it accordingly.

 

It's one game. You can't get Smash and Kart, only one of them. If you get Smash you have to buy Kart and vice versa, literally no different from bundles currently except you have way more choice in what that one game you get is. This also means the lost profits is spread thin across the NX's entire library so no single game should suffer much sales lost.



Einsam_Delphin said:
onionberry said:
just make a zelda bundle with a triforce design

 

But not everyone is a Zelda fan.

 

spemanig said:
Nothing like this would ever happen. Nintendo isn't a charity. There's a reason some games are bundled while others are not.

 

Something like this has already happened with Mario Kart 8.

They limited it to a few games and there was a time limit and it was the game not the console.



Einsam_Delphin said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Cause one of the ways that Nintendo makes money is through software sales... A good number of people who are gonna buy the NX are going to be Nintendo fans and they are the ones who are also going to buy games like MK, SSB, Mario 3d, etc etc etc. Now if people save their free game for those, suddenly, Nintendo is losing loads of sales they otherwise would have gotten if they didn't have that deal... And suddenly, the development costs would outweigh the profits and considering those big games generally sell a craycray amount, it would not be worth it.

And not to mention, Nintendo is a business and the investors would facepalm if its for the entire life of the console due to that. They would basically be giving out their big game for free. But if they leave it within a limited time frame, then they wouldn't be losing profits in their big hitters because they would time it accordingly.

It's one game. You can't get Smash and Kart, only one of them. If you get Smash you have to buy Kart and vice versa, literally no different from bundles currently except you have way more choice in what that one game you get is. This also means the lost profits is spread thin across the NX's entire library so no single game should suffer much sales lost.

It is different because a) Not every game gets bundled and b) The bundles are super limited during launch... When Mario Kart 8 bundle launched, it was out of stock super quickly without being in stock for months. Thats not because people kept on buying them but rather cause Nintendo wasn't resupplying them. Not to mention that not every country even gets bundles either and there is a reason for all of that which is that they are losing sales. And sure, its one game but people would buy that game regardless due to how great the games have been but now, they would just get it for free.

And its hardly spread thin if its Mario Kart or Smash Bros which sell over 5 million each and far exceed the sales of their other franchises... And not to mention that some of those bundles cost more than the base price of the wiiU. Oh and it's also a gamble... If the NX flops and they are scrambling for money and they are giving out one of their biggest games for free... RIP



                  

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spemanig said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

Something like this has already happened with Mario Kart 8.

No, it didn't.

There was a deal where if you got Mario Kart 8 and registered it on club ninty, you get a download code for LoZ: Wind waker, pikmin 3, Wii Party U(lol), or one other game



 

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AAA300 said:

They limited it to a few games and there was a time limit and it was the game not the console.

 

Something LIKE this

 

Captain_Yuri said:

It is different because a) Not every game gets bundled and b) The bundles are super limited during launch... When Mario Kart 8 bundle launched, it was out of stock super quickly without being in stock for months. Thats not because people kept on buying them but rather cause Nintendo wasn't resupplying them. Not to mention that not every country even gets bundles either and there is a reason for all of that which is that they are losing sales. And sure, its one game but people would buy that game regardless due to how great the games have been but now, they would just get it for free.

And its hardly spread thin if its Mario Kart or Smash Bros which sell over 5 million each and far exceed the sales of their other franchises... And not to mention that some of those bundles cost more than the base price of the wiiU. Oh and it's also a gamble... If the NX flops and they are scrambling for money and they are giving out one of their biggest games for free... RIP

 

Most all the major sellers do, and it doesn't make a difference as long as bundles are always available, which in the 3DS and Wii U's case they have been for years.

"And its hardly spread thin if its Mario Kart or Smash Bros which sell over 5 million each and far exceed the sales of their other franchises..."

Not sure what you're getting at here. Are you implying essentially 100+ bundles will have the same division of sales loss as 4-5 bundles? Just an example, instead of NSMBU losing out on the 1 million sales it likely has from being bundled, it would lose 800k while Pikmin 3 Ioses 100k and Xenoblade loses 100k with my idea. In the end the same amount of sales are being lost so it doesn't really matter.

"And sure, its one game but people would buy that game regardless due to how great the games have been but now, they would just get it for free."

"If the NX flops and they are scrambling for money and they are giving out one of their biggest games for free... RIP"

This logic applies to all bundles. The point is to help the console sell so the games can. If literally everyone who buys a NX uses their code on Smash, then fine, just means all their many other games can sell to their fullest.



Uh, I dunno, I think the sales for the Mario and Zelda franchises would drop drastically if this was to happen, I mean just look at how many people bought Wii U just for MK8...



Would be neat, but being able to choose your own game sounds too good to be true :p



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Luke888 said:
Uh, I dunno, I think the sales for the Mario and Zelda franchises would drop drastically if this was to happen, I mean just look at how many people bought Wii U just for MK8...

 

Bundles already exist and sales haven't dropped drastically. How is increasing the bundle options gonna make a negative difference? If Nintendo were to make a Pikmin 3 Bundle, a Xenoblade X Bundle, and a Bayonetta 2 Bundle all right now, what would change?