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Azzanation said:
Azuren said:

Eeeeeeexcept both games would exist, regardless. SF is too big of a series to end, and Tomb Raider was a really good reboot that couldn't not have a sequel.

 

The difference is Capcom is becoming a fairly reserved company and avoiding risks, so a SFV wouldnt have happened for a long time unless Sony ponied up for development and development cost. Square, on the other hand, is one of the largest publishers in the world and doesn't shy away from the ridiculous. They didn't need help with Tomb Raider, nor did Microsoft's influence speed it up. If Microsoft really did play a legitimate role in RotTR, then it would never appear on a PlayStation console. Instead, they simply paid for timed exclusivity. 

 

SFV: Owned in part by Sony as a game but IP owned by Capcom, will never be on Xbox

RotTR: Owned entirely by Square, will appear on PlayStation as soon as the contract to not release it ends.

 

They're totally different based simply on the fact that RotTR will be on PS4 by the end of the year. 

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/square-enix-disappointed-by-sales-of-tomb-raider-wants-to-maximise-profits-during-development/

Sqaure were expecting 6m sales on the Reboot, and Square were not happy with the game sales. MS kept TR to be a major AAA title, while Sqaure were looking at other ways to produce TR and probably cutting the costs. If it wasnt for MS's funding TR might not be as good as it is today. The funding made sqaure make it a big AAA game and not cheapening out on us gamers.

As for SFV Sony did the exact same thing, they gave Capcon money to not only realease the game sooner but to also keep it off other platforms. Why is it ok for Sony to boycott competitors and MS arent? MS helped fund the development of RoTR which is why Sqaure allowed MS to have some of the benefits. Sounds fair to me doesnt it. If you paid with your own money to help develope a game wouldnt you want benefits? Both games are the same, they both took money to keep it off competitors platforms. Theres no right or wrong here. There both as low as each other.

If you think Sony did great with the SFV deal then you should be thankful to MS for allowing TR to maintain its AAA budget and giving us one of the best games last year.

Regardless of what you're saying or arguing, if it was the same thing then RotTR would never appear on PS4.

 

But it is. 

 

So it isn't. 

 

Reference all the links you want, there's something fundamentally different at the very core of these exchanges, or RotTR would be an MS console exclusive. 



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HylianYoshi said:
Who's stupid idea was it to pit up RotTR against Fallout day one? Anyway, I'm glad to see that the game found more success on one of the platforms it deserved to release on DAY ONE.

Screw timed exclusivity. What's the point if you're going to release it on other platforms later on? Just to piss people off for a certain amount of time and walk away with the cash handed to you. I don't know anyone who goes out to buy a console when they know it'll come to their own in a matter of months.

 

HylianYoshi said:
Who's stupid idea was it to pit up RotTR against Fallout day one? Anyway, I'm glad to see that the game found more success on one of the platforms it deserved to release on DAY ONE.

Screw timed exclusivity. What's the point if you're going to release it on other platforms later on? Just to piss people off for a certain amount of time and walk away with the cash handed to you. I don't know anyone who goes out to buy a console when they know it'll come to their own in a matter of months.

It being an x1 exclusive was the bigger issue not fallout....not sure why people are using fallout as a scape goat.



Azzanation said:
Azuren said:

Eeeeeeexcept both games would exist, regardless. SF is too big of a series to end, and Tomb Raider was a really good reboot that couldn't not have a sequel.

 

The difference is Capcom is becoming a fairly reserved company and avoiding risks, so a SFV wouldnt have happened for a long time unless Sony ponied up for development and development cost. Square, on the other hand, is one of the largest publishers in the world and doesn't shy away from the ridiculous. They didn't need help with Tomb Raider, nor did Microsoft's influence speed it up. If Microsoft really did play a legitimate role in RotTR, then it would never appear on a PlayStation console. Instead, they simply paid for timed exclusivity. 

 

SFV: Owned in part by Sony as a game but IP owned by Capcom, will never be on Xbox

RotTR: Owned entirely by Square, will appear on PlayStation as soon as the contract to not release it ends.

 

They're totally different based simply on the fact that RotTR will be on PS4 by the end of the year. 

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/square-enix-disappointed-by-sales-of-tomb-raider-wants-to-maximise-profits-during-development/

Sqaure were expecting 6m sales on the Reboot, and Square were not happy with the game sales. MS kept TR to be a major AAA title, while Sqaure were looking at other ways to produce TR and probably cutting the costs. If it wasnt for MS's funding TR might not be as good as it is today. The funding made sqaure make it a big AAA game and not cheapening out on us gamers.

As for SFV Sony did the exact same thing, they gave Capcon money to not only realease the game sooner but to also keep it off other platforms. Why is it ok for Sony to boycott competitors and MS arent? MS helped fund the development of RoTR which is why Sqaure allowed MS to have some of the benefits. Sounds fair to me doesnt it. If you paid with your own money to help develope a game wouldnt you want benefits? Both games are the same, they both took money to keep it off competitors platforms. Theres no right or wrong here. There both as low as each other.

If you think Sony did great with the SFV deal then you should be thankful to MS for allowing TR to maintain its AAA budget and giving us one of the best games last year.

Insiders on gaf  in the know with Sq uare say it was already being made and is being made for all platforms..MS didn;pt fund shit or it would nt be on PS4. Your posts here are embarassing. Sony even had it on their 2013 e3 show. TR didn;t need any money for budget, it ws allready fully funded by square, you are naive iof you think this was anything other then a desperate atrempt to get an uncharted like game as MS cannot make them theirself, Phil evensaid this.

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SplendidSolis said:
Azzanation said:

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/square-enix-disappointed-by-sales-of-tomb-raider-wants-to-maximise-profits-during-development/

Sqaure were expecting 6m sales on the Reboot, and Square were not happy with the game sales. MS kept TR to be a major AAA title, while Sqaure were looking at other ways to produce TR and probably cutting the costs. If it wasnt for MS's funding TR might not be as good as it is today. The funding made sqaure make it a big AAA game and not cheapening out on us gamers.

As for SFV Sony did the exact same thing, they gave Capcon money to not only realease the game sooner but to also keep it off other platforms. Why is it ok for Sony to boycott competitors and MS arent? MS helped fund the development of RoTR which is why Sqaure allowed MS to have some of the benefits. Sounds fair to me doesnt it. If you paid with your own money to help develope a game wouldnt you want benefits? Both games are the same, they both took money to keep it off competitors platforms. Theres no right or wrong here. There both as low as each other.

If you think Sony did great with the SFV deal then you should be thankful to MS for allowing TR to maintain its AAA budget and giving us one of the best games last year.

Insiders on gaf  in the know with Sq uare say it was already being made and is being made for all platforms..MS didn;pt fund shit or it would nt be on PS4. Your posts here are embarassing. Sony even had it on their 2013 e3 show. TR didn;t need any money for budget, it ws allready fully funded by square, you are naive iof you think this was anything other then a desperate atrempt to get an uncharted like game as MS cannot make them theirself, Phil evensaid this.

Please don't muddy up this conversation with hate. 



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Machina said:
CGI-Quality said:
Good to see it pulling in some decent numbers, but hopefully, this means future releases will launch, day-and-date, on all three platforms.

Chances of them doing this again must be close to 0.


Edit - by 'this' I mean timed exclusivity and a triple staggered launch.

Hopefully this deal only last fot his game.

OP- this si digital sales only and considering howe many PC games just buy their games digitally im not shocked. 



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Azuren said:
SplendidSolis said:

Insiders on gaf  in the know with Sq uare say it was already being made and is being made for all platforms..MS didn;pt fund shit or it would nt be on PS4. Your posts here are embarassing. Sony even had it on their 2013 e3 show. TR didn;t need any money for budget, it ws allready fully funded by square, you are naive iof you think this was anything other then a desperate atrempt to get an uncharted like game as MS cannot make them theirself, Phil evensaid this.

Please don't muddy up this conversation with hate. 

WTF are you talking about? HAte? I stated facts as we know them. Where am I hating? Kagari on gaf already confirme over a year ago ms never funded a penny of development. 



SplendidSolis said:
Azuren said:

Please don't muddy up this conversation with hate. 

WTF are you talking about? HAte? I stated facts as we know them. Where am I hating? Kagari on gaf already confirme over a year ago ms never funded a penny of development. 

"Your posts here are embarassing"? 

 

No, sir. This is not how to act on these forums. 



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Azuren said:
SplendidSolis said:

WTF are you talking about? HAte? I stated facts as we know them. Where am I hating? Kagari on gaf already confirme over a year ago ms never funded a penny of development. 

"Your posts here are embarassing"? 

 

No, sir. This is not how to act on these forums. 

My apologies, but i've been a long time lurker and the post I quoted has a long history of out there posts always defending MS and crapping on sony, I got carried away, the rest of my post stands.



This is great news! I am wondering how well it will perform on PS4 later this year. I imagine Sony will advertise the shit out of their version considering how far the release will be from the X1, so it will be very interesting to see how it pans out.



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Dont forget the game was available at MS store for 9$ ,
so i assume many % coming from it (me and most of my friend got it at that time)

http://wccftech.com/rise-tomb-raider-9-windows-store/