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Can Trump nail his appearance in the Colbert show?

Trump never looks good anywhere. 50 28.57%
 
Sure, the guy has a sense of humor. 46 26.29%
 
Colbert will go easy on h... 22 12.57%
 
I can't fucking care less. 18 10.29%
 
Colbert will mop the floo... 39 22.29%
 
Total:175
generic-user-1 on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:

he inherited a well run realestate business with alot of assets in NYC.  if he did nothing and let other people run all, he would have as much hard assets as he has today(or even more). its not so well run today it looks like, other realestate companys made alot more profit in the last 15 years.

and he couldnt finance a campaign because he doenst have the money, his worth isnt wealth, its a image, not more. he cant sell the trump name for 10b dollar or 100m dollar because it cant be sold.

Other real state, ok, in average with all companies he made more or less? And sure the company could have been worst than before, I don't follow his news, but you are assuming them that on average 100M would turn 1B in 15 years?

And why gave you skipped all else?

less, 100m in good NYC realestate in 1999 is worth 1b today, without any problem.



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DonFerrari on 13 September 2015
generic-user-1 said:
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:
 

he inherited a well run realestate business with alot of assets in NYC.  if he did nothing and let other people run all, he would have as much hard assets as he has today(or even more). its not so well run today it looks like, other realestate companys made alot more profit in the last 15 years.

and he couldnt finance a campaign because he doenst have the money, his worth isnt wealth, its a image, not more. he cant sell the trump name for 10b dollar or 100m dollar because it cant be sold.

Other real state, ok, in average with all companies he made more or less? And sure the company could have been worst than before, I don't follow his news, but you are assuming them that on average 100M would turn 1B in 15 years?

And why gave you skipped all else?

less, 100m in good NYC realestate in 1999 is worth 1b today, without any problem.


Ok I'll accept your theory that he is basically less inteligent than average and all his money came only because of inheritance. Now let's see he makes an ass of himself on the program.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Madword on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:

he needs to finance his own election because he needs the super rich guy image to win it, and to be super rich because the trump brand is his biggest asset and he needs to play richie rich or the brand will die.

and yes, its easy to get realy rich if you inherit a well run big real estate company that has most of its assets in new york.

if he is stupid or a brilliant actor/conman? i dont know, i realy realy dont know, but he isnt a brilliant or even good business person, his company isnt well run and many people with a background like him have the same amount of money he has, if not more.

bloomberg made trump realy rich with his politics in nyc and the boom nyc saw after that, and his example could ruin trump, bloomberg invested just his own money, and run a huge campaigne in nyc, trump isnt able to finance such an campaigne nation wide, and taking money from other guys would destroy his chances to win.  atm he is ahead of everybody and spend the least amount of money, but that will change when the campaigne starts its next stage with the first primarys.


You think he needs... let's see to the end and if no one will donate to his campaigne... He may be richie rich for you, but I could be wrong, but are all his companies 100% owned by him without any shareholder?

Well if it's really easy to become bilionaire in similar circunstance, you certainly could provide a research about how many % of people that had previous generation worth between 20-100M became billionaires, right? Please show me the numers, many is very generic (there are many bilionaires, so everyone should be bilionaire?), I want statistic.

You first say he have a well run, and then say it isn't well run.

Have any campaign costed 10Billion? Perhaps he could, but would be utter silly.

No one is saying that trump isnt someone who cannot run a business well, but think of it this way:

1. Guy with no money wants to start a shop, he has to take out loans, has no contacts, risks it all.

2. Guy with lots of money, can buy lots of shops, can get other people to invest, takes less risks.

If you are rich or from a rich family/background you are in a better position than someone who might have to risk their family home to make money. I have more respect for Alan Sugar who started off with nothing, than someone like Trump or Branson who could indeed fail and not suddenly find themselves out on their backsides.

On another note, the guys a fool... but because he has money he will be able to raise money from other people who want in on the political money train.



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pokoko on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
pokoko said:

You said "what's your excuse" for not being a billionare, as though everyone was starting off with a level playing field.  That's obviously not even close to being true, not by any stretch of the imagination.  It takes money to make money--I know, as I've owned two store-front businesses--and Trump starting off with millions in assets and his father's business gives him a massive edge when compared to the average person.  That's an iron-clad fact.  The "what's your excuse" line was silly.


Yes he started with a great edge agaisnt common folk, does that makes him making 20x of what he started become regular achievement?... so you started two bussiness, how have they went?

My two small businesses that I started with loans from the bank?  I sold them both, one as a clear profit, the other as a loss for tax purposes.  The first one I sold because I had a great offer on the table, the second one I sold because of changing industry trends.  Why?  Are you saying that my $30,000 of small business loans put me on the same playing field with Trump's inherited millions and his father's business?

Regardless, I never said that he's not an excellent businessman.  I'm saying that your implication that the average person should be a billionare or else have an "excuse" for why they are not is ridiculous.



DonFerrari on 13 September 2015
Madword said:
DonFerrari said:


You think he needs... let's see to the end and if no one will donate to his campaigne... He may be richie rich for you, but I could be wrong, but are all his companies 100% owned by him without any shareholder?

Well if it's really easy to become bilionaire in similar circunstance, you certainly could provide a research about how many % of people that had previous generation worth between 20-100M became billionaires, right? Please show me the numers, many is very generic (there are many bilionaires, so everyone should be bilionaire?), I want statistic.

You first say he have a well run, and then say it isn't well run.

Have any campaign costed 10Billion? Perhaps he could, but would be utter silly.

No one is saying that trump isnt someone who cannot run a business well, but think of it this way:

1. Guy with no money wants to start a shop, he has to take out loans, has no contacts, risks it all.

2. Guy with lots of money, can buy lots of shops, can get other people to invest, takes less risks.

If you are rich or from a rich family/background you are in a better position than someone who might have to risk their family home to make money. I have more respect for Alan Sugar who started off with nothing, than someone like Trump or Branson who could indeed fail and not suddenly find themselves out on their backsides.

On another note, the guys a fool... but because he has money he will be able to raise money from other people who want in on the political money train.


Have I denied he had a better start? Or have I said I wouldn't value more the achievements of Silvio Santos in Brazil or Bill Gates in USA? Nope, I just said he is not the idiot you may think he is, or even the fool he may be pretending to be.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 13 September 2015
pokoko said:
DonFerrari said:


Yes he started with a great edge agaisnt common folk, does that makes him making 20x of what he started become regular achievement?... so you started two bussiness, how have they went?

My two small businesses that I started with loans from the bank?  I sold them both, one as a clear profit, the other as a loss for tax purposes.  The first one I sold because I had a great offer on the table, the second one I sold because of changing industry trends.  Why?  Are you saying that my $30,000 of small business loans put me on the same playing field with Trump's inherited millions and his father's business?

Regardless, I never said that he's not an excellent businessman.  I'm saying that your implication that the average person should be a billionare or else have an "excuse" for why they are not is ridiculous.

Happy to know that your ventures were at least partialy successfull.

And no I didn't said it puts you in the same playfield. I said that the increase in worth he made isn't just because he was born rich.

Nope my implication is that he is not an idiot, as many assume, if he was everyone would be becoming milionaires at least.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

generic-user-1 on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:
 

he inherited a well run realestate business with alot of assets in NYC.  if he did nothing and let other people run all, he would have as much hard assets as he has today(or even more). its not so well run today it looks like, other realestate companys made alot more profit in the last 15 years.

and he couldnt finance a campaign because he doenst have the money, his worth isnt wealth, its a image, not more. he cant sell the trump name for 10b dollar or 100m dollar because it cant be sold.

Other real state, ok, in average with all companies he made more or less? And sure the company could have been worst than before, I don't follow his news, but you are assuming them that on average 100M would turn 1B in 15 years?

And why gave you skipped all else?

less, 100m in good NYC realestate in 1999 is worth 1b today, without any problem.


Ok I'll accept your theory that he is basically less inteligent than average and all his money came only because of inheritance. Now let's see he makes an ass of himself on the program.

hes not stupid, hes just not a selfmade billionair, or a good business person.  but he is a brilliant conman.



DonFerrari on 13 September 2015
generic-user-1 said:
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:

less, 100m in good NYC realestate in 1999 is worth 1b today, without any problem.


Ok I'll accept your theory that he is basically less inteligent than average and all his money came only because of inheritance. Now let's see he makes an ass of himself on the program.

hes not stupid, hes just not a selfmade billionair, or a good business person.  but he is a brilliant conman.


That could be an opinion that if said in person could get you in jail... but certainly a conman have a place in politics, and I would bet some have sitted on the presidential chair not only on the white house but several other countries.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

generic-user-1 on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:

less, 100m in good NYC realestate in 1999 is worth 1b today, without any problem.


Ok I'll accept your theory that he is basically less inteligent than average and all his money came only because of inheritance. Now let's see he makes an ass of himself on the program.

hes not stupid, hes just not a selfmade billionair, or a good business person.  but he is a brilliant conman.


That could be an opinion that if said in person could get you in jail... but certainly a conman have a place in politics, and I would bet some have sitted on the presidential chair not only on the white house but several other countries.

what? thats an insult in the worst case, and an insult doesnt get you into jail, he could sue me, but i doubt that will happen



Madword on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:

Have I denied he had a better start? Or have I said I wouldn't value more the achievements of Silvio Santos in Brazil or Bill Gates in USA? Nope, I just said he is not the idiot you may think he is, or even the fool he may be pretending to be.

Woah calm down, I'm not even american, so I dont care that much about it....lol.

But yes I still believe/think he is an idiot and a fool. Just because someone is rich, doesnt exclude them from that possibility. How he acts in public is how I perceive him, if he pretends to be a fool in public, I'm afraid that's how I'll get my opinion of him.



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