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jason1637 said:
Sony- PSN going down, Mediocre Exclusives, Small Controller, Announce games really early, Long E3s
MS- Dropped Kinect, Need more variety of games, Need to entice the European market more if they ever plan to win a generation.
And Nintendo is perfect the way they are.

 

Mediocre exclusives? Objectively they score higher and there are more of them, a lot more. Bloodborne is in contention for GOTY and Xbox has had NOTHING all year. 

Announce games early? Are you delirious? I suppose Crackdown and QB were announced just on time? Double standards if I ever saw them.

The DS3 was small, DS4 is the right size..., unless you have gorilla hands, course most xbox users are a bit primitive...



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Bryank75 said:
jason1637 said:
Sony- PSN going down, Mediocre Exclusives, Small Controller, Announce games really early, Long E3s
MS- Dropped Kinect, Need more variety of games, Need to entice the European market more if they ever plan to win a generation.
And Nintendo is perfect the way they are.

 

Mediocre exclusives? Objectively they score higher and there are more of them, a lot more. Bloodborne is in contention for GOTY and Xbox has had NOTHING all year. 

Announce games early? Are you delirious? I suppose Crackdown and QB were announced just on time? Double standards if I ever saw them.

The DS3 was small, DS4 is the right size..., unless you have gorilla hands, course most xbox users are a bit primitive...

Well Bloodborne is a solid game. Also Xbox got Rare Replay and Gears so far.

Well QB was announced 2013 compared to TLG which was announced around 2010.

Well DS4 is a solid controller indeed but i would like it a bit bigger. Bigger is better ;)



 

Sony
  • Needs to build stronger relationships with second party devs instead of casting them off to the side all the time, Ready at Dawn was just the most recent and they've done this to multiple studios. 
  • Needs to make PS Now more worthwhile. IMO it isn't worth the steep price if you're already paying for PS+
  • Needs to ackowledge the Vita's existence. 
  • Needs to fix the PSN. I've had on and off issues on my PS3 since January. 
Microsoft
  • Needs to expand first party offerings with new studios and build stronger relationships with second party devs. 
  • Neess to match Plus' price with XBL Gold
  • Needs to focus on markets outside of the US and Canada. People won't give MS the time of day if they don't put any effort in. 
  • Needs to utilize TEH CLOUDTM more. It took us how long to get Crackdown 3 after all the hype? 
IMO I think both of them making their consoles HDMI only was a bad idea. Developing nations don't have access to HDTVs as much as Europe/US/Canada/Japan do. Both of them also need to not go all digital. It will not work. 

 



jason1637 said:
Bryank75 said:
jason1637 said:
Sony- PSN going down, Mediocre Exclusives, Small Controller, Announce games really early, Long E3s
MS- Dropped Kinect, Need more variety of games, Need to entice the European market more if they ever plan to win a generation.
And Nintendo is perfect the way they are.

 

Mediocre exclusives? Objectively they score higher and there are more of them, a lot more. Bloodborne is in contention for GOTY and Xbox has had NOTHING all year. 

Announce games early? Are you delirious? I suppose Crackdown and QB were announced just on time? Double standards if I ever saw them.

The DS3 was small, DS4 is the right size..., unless you have gorilla hands, course most xbox users are a bit primitive...

Well Bloodborne is a solid game. Also Xbox got Rare Replay and Gears so far.

Well QB was announced 2013 compared to TLG which was announced around 2010.

Well DS4 is a solid controller indeed but i would like it a bit bigger. Bigger is better ;)

 

VGC has taught me that Remasters are despicable, irrelevant, dont count as games, dont exist, cero, nada.



Lawlight said:
Nintendo - I don't think they're particular good at anything in particular. The one positive thing that they have is the fact that they make JRPGs, even though it's one per generation.

Sony - Wide variety of good/great quality first party games.

Microsoft - I don't think they're particular good at anything in particular either. They do have the cash though.

This sounds to me a lot like "I have never had any console other than playstation so it must be the best and the rest must be shit"



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Normchacho said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Nintendo - weak hardware, weak online features

Sony - no games, seem pretty lethargic due to sales lead

MS - completely dropped the ball with Kinect


haha!

Console with 19 exclusives: Plenty of games!

Console with 59 exclusives: NO GAMEZ!!!!

Looks like some people here still dont understand opinions and tastes in games. I own i guess one of those 59 exclusives? Idk, does the LoU port count? There are so many lists and definitions for exclusives.

Personally Sony hasnt given me anything to play this gen. Driveclub was pretty but the gameplay bored me. Tried Bloodborne, not my cup of tea. Will eventually try Until Dawn. We all know how The Order went.

Hope that helps.



jason1637 said:
Bryank75 said:
jason1637 said:

 

 

Well Bloodborne is a solid game. Also Xbox got Rare Replay and Gears so far.

Well QB was announced 2013 compared to TLG which was announced around 2010.

Before I get to the main point, I'd just like to say that TLG is the exception, not the rule. Most PS games are announced closer to launch than most Xbox games, at least off the top of my head they are.


So, I've noticed a trend here on VGC that I'd like to address. Not just from you, or from Xbox fans or anything like that. but lately it seems that the cut off for what counts as a good game has gotten crazy high. In what world does a 90+ game just count as solid? Killzone: Shadow Fall is a solid game, Bloodborne is an excellent game. The other day someone one here said that an 80 on Metacritic wasn't a good score. That's insane to me and it seems to be coming all the more common to see that sentiment here on VGC. 



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Normchacho said:



Looks like some people here still dont understand opinions and tastes in games. I own i guess one of those 59 exclusives? Idk, does the LoU port count? There are so many lists and definitions for exclusives.

Personally Sony hasnt given me anything to play this gen. Driveclub was pretty but the gameplay bored me. Tried Bloodborne, not my cup of tea. Will eventually try Until Dawn. We all know how The Order went.

Hope that helps.


There is a big difference between "no games" and "no games that fit my personal taste". The PS4 has a large number of exclusives that cover a wide range of styles and genres. The games are there.

We also know how Until Dawn went. Pretty well actually.



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Nintendo: lacking of third party games(Wii U) & slow release Virtual console games 'N64'

Sony: 1st of all, Vita's memory card is still expensive, lacking of US/EU third party games & lacking of buttons(L2/L3/R2/R3). 2nd of all, PS4 is not 100% region free, like EU dlc code don't/doesn't work on US account(or US games)... & PS Now.. Give me a break, that's so expensive. Finally, please stop making interactive movie games, just bring back Jak & Daxter, Syphon Filter & The Legend of Dragoon.

Microsoft: Come on, low end gpu? And where are upcoming Rareware games?



Nintendo - Stuck in the past. Their business model has been afraid to branch out to different avenues and slow to adapt to current trends. They don't play ball with developers (as much as PC, Sony, or MS), so they lose out on far more third-party content. They force specific control schemes for consoles (which CAN work as seen with the Wii), which marginalizes their popularity with the more gaming-specific demographics.

Sony - Poor online infrastructure has caused network issues and security threats. They've long been enforcing consumers to use their own proprietary accessories for devices (Cameras, Vita, PSP), which has made upgrading memory difficult and costly. The PS3 was notoriously difficult to program for, leading to issues with quality for certain games and ports.

Microsoft - Where to even begin? Microsoft has been the poster child for poor business practices. From the history of their issues with the EU and forcing Internet Explorer down everyone's throats, to their practice of buying developers and squandering their talents (Rare). Their marketing/PR for the Xbox One was an absolute nightmare, which has continued hurting them to this day. They severely lack communication between departments, causing them to never be as cohesive a platform as Apple (just look at Windows Phone for an example).