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kurasakiichimaru on 31 July 2015
baloofarsan said:
Angelv577 said:

Are you saying they are lying? lol I guess you don't believe anything coming from developers or publisher unless VG chartz or any other tracking services says so.

I am just curios why they failed to mention anything on sales during E3 or at PS+ introduction. Publishers are usually not shy to tell us if a game has reached an even figure in sales.

Your usage of failed is suspect. Every one has the rights to withhd information aslong as its not harmful to anyone or virtually one that does implicates yourself. And Rushy even said" look what turned up today" at his first tweet. Maybe he knew it but he wanted to show everyone the plaque of selling 2 million sold first as physical evidence that they indeed sold that much. Everyone has their ways of doing things.

 

E3 week would be a mess to announce things especially if you are not showing anything new. It would get buried with the megatons shown during PS conference.



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GameAnalyser on 31 July 2015
Zackasaurus-rex said:
DriveClub would have easily deserved critical acclaim if not for launch issues, and it certainly deserves such acclaim now.

It's refreshing to see that some consumers do their research, at least. c:

I'm just so into Driveclub since last week.



baloofarsan on 31 July 2015
kurasakiichimaru said:
baloofarsan said:
Angelv577 said:

 

Your usage of failed is suspect. Every one has the rights to withhd information aslong as its not harmful to anyone or virtually one that does implicates yourself. And Rushy even said" look what turned up today" at his first tweet. Maybe he knew it but he wanted to show everyone the plaque of selling 2 million sold first as physical evidence that they indeed sold that much. Everyone has their ways of doing things.

 

E3 week would be a mess to announce things especially if you are not showing anything new. It would get buried with the megatons shown during PS conference.

I know VGChartz data is not 100% (they seem to change old data when they get better intel also). However I compared VGChartz database with what blog.playstation.us.com announced regarding two random games: ImFAMOUS SS & Bloodbourne.

Apr 14, 2015 Playstation announced that Bloodbourne had sold one million. VGChartz has one million shortly before  April 11, 2015.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/82937/bloodborne/Global/

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/04/14/bloodborne-sells-one-million-first-1-03-details/

 

Apr 10, 2014 Playstation announced that inFAMOUS Second Son had sold one million. VGChartz has one million shortly before March 29,2014.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/71541/infamous-second-son/Global/

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/04/10/infamous-second-son-sales-surpass-1-million/

 

In both cases Sony waited less than two weeks to make their announcement.



kurasakiichimaru on 31 July 2015

I still don't see the point of your argument. What does it contradicts besides the difference in timing of the announcement? I'm sure things like that aren't as unusual as you make it out to be. The only thing we're getting here is that you're implying Rushy of lying and doing sales manipulation without evidence but purely with conspiracy theories.



baloofarsan on 31 July 2015
kurasakiichimaru said:

I still don't see the point of your argument. What does it contradicts besides the difference in timing of the announcement? I'm sure things like that aren't as unusual as you make it out to be. The only thing we're getting here is that you're implying Rushy of lying and doing sales manipulation without evidence but purely with conspiracy theories.

No conspiracy just a touch of OCD when things do not add up the way I want them. Then if I am challenged I try to find support for my theory, full well knowing it is possible to prove most anything with statistics.

EDIT: This is one game I will buy when I get a PS4, (when No Man's Sky releases).



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CWegzz on 31 July 2015

I've been wanting to try this game for quite awhile now. The only thing that's been stopping me is my huge backlog. I'm sure I'll get it eventually. The game looks very impressive.



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Tyritorious on 31 July 2015

I wouldn't categorize Driveclub as a success, considering the game is viewed as a disappointment.

Edit: my previous comment was too far off topic, so i'll save it for a more appropriate thread...



kurasakiichimaru on 31 July 2015
baloofarsan said:
kurasakiichimaru said:

I still don't see the point of your argument. What does it contradicts besides the difference in timing of the announcement? I'm sure things like that aren't as unusual as you make it out to be. The only thing we're getting here is that you're implying Rushy of lying and doing sales manipulation without evidence but purely with conspiracy theories.

No conspiracy just a touch of OCD when things do not add up the way I want them. Then if I am challenged I try to find support for my theory, full well knowing it is possible to prove most anything with statistics.

EDIT: This is one game I will buy when I get a PS4, (when No Man's Sky releases).


Yeah whatever. Thanks for derailing the thread though.

 

On topic: Maybe this is why Japanese devs are coming back stronger especially on PS4 because of this kind of success stories despite critical bombing



baloofarsan on 31 July 2015
kurasakiichimaru said:
baloofarsan said:

Yeah whatever. Thanks for derailing the thread though.

On topic: Maybe this is why Japanese devs are coming back stronger especially on PS4 because of this kind of success stories despite critical bombing

No derailing. My first point was that a number of actions (free DLC, bundling, PS+) was Sonys response to bad reviews and online problems. With these actions they managed to turn the sales numbers to somewhat positive. The Playstation audience has responded to the marketing efforts that Sony did.

On the other hand, The Order 1886 is a good example where reviews were bad and the publisher did not do much to help the situation. Despite this the game has sold somwhere around a million, probably well over.

 

EDIT: Good Night!



kurasakiichimaru on 31 July 2015
baloofarsan said:
kurasakiichimaru said:

Yeah whatever. Thanks for derailing the thread though.

On topic: Maybe this is why Japanese devs are coming back stronger especially on PS4 because of this kind of success stories despite critical bombing

No derailing. My first point was that a number of actions (free DLC, bundling, PS+) was Sonys response to bad reviews and online problems. With these actions they managed to turn the sales numbers to somewhat positive. The Playstation audience has responded to the marketing efforts that Sony did.

On the other hand, The Order 1886 is a good example where reviews were bad and the publisher did not do much to help the situation. Despite this the game has sold somwhere around a million, probably well over.

 

EDIT: Good Night!


You don't have all the source for all of those. lol