My vote for best cartoon in a thread a few months ago. I'm justifiably excited!
| Ouroboros24 said: Super Sweet. They continue to pour out of theoretical science. This is the first time any show has explained the 4 dimension so well. Futurama got it started, but this show has gotten the concept out in such away you can imagine a tesseract become into play. Each segment of the differentiating times is explained perfectly in this show. At least the first episode, which is what I'm talking about. Didn't know the second episode was already leaked. It has not shyed away from it's science fiction roots and is just magnifascent. |
I read your post some hours ago but stopped reading when I noticed you started talking about the episode. :/ Some spoiler bars could help for those that haven't seen the episode yet, you know, specially when we talk about episodes that haven't aired yet.
About the episode:
I think this episode was about different realities instead of showing a tessaract: a cube in a fourth dimension.
The episode started tame but very crazy! Then it upped the comedy with the Giant Head Testicle dude from the Fourth Dimension.
Poor Einstein. xD "I will mess with time." lol
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AbbathTheGrim said:
I read your post some hours ago but stopped reading when I noticed you started talking about the episode. :/ Some spoiler bars could help for those that haven't seen the episode yet, you know, specially when we talk about episodes that haven't aired yet. About the episode: I think this episode was about different realities instead of showing a tessaract: a cube in a fourth dimension. The episode started tame but very crazy! Then it upped the comedy with the Giant Head Testicle dude from the Fourth Dimension. Poor Einstein. xD "I will mess with time." lol |
Yeah sorry about spoilers, I'll flash that from now on, thanks. More spoilers ahead...
About the segmented realities. When I mention a tesseract, I meant that they way they explained the 4th dimension, you know how a cube is this changing thing that keeps no shape, but is still considered a cube, the way they portrayed their time separated through 2 possibilities, is how one can imagine a tesseract without actually seeing it. In one segment, it could be stationary, but in another segmented reality, it could be moving, which explains the overlapping in vertices of a tesseract.
As for what was really happening to them, to me, it was a representation of what happens when your actual time stream is fractured. It wasn't mulitiple worlds, it was their own timeline, separated from all normal time, corrupted in a way where their place in reality is split. Think of a light source being seperated by a prism, and each separation is that of them not following the normalcy of the light ray, which was why they weren't able to combine and be put in place with normal time. In the end, Rick was able to fix their reality, and fit it back into place like a puzzle into their normal time stream. It's like Inception, but for realities instead of dreams. Possibly, of course.
"I will mess with time," crying and whimpering.
Oh boy, here I go killing again!
| Ouroboros24 said: Yeah sorry about spoilers, I'll flash that from now on, thanks. More spoilers ahead... About the segmented realities. When I mention a tesseract, I meant that they way they explained the 4th dimension, you know how a cube is this changing thing that keeps no shape, but is still considered a cube, the way they portrayed their time separated through 2 possibilities, is how one can imagine a tesseract without actually seeing it. In one segment, it could be stationary, but in another segmented reality, it could be moving, which explains the overlapping in vertices of a tesseract. As for what was really happening to them, to me, it was a representation of what happens when your actual time stream is fractured. It wasn't mulitiple worlds, it was their own timeline, separated from all normal time, corrupted in a way where their place in reality is split. Think of a light source being seperated by a prism, and each separation is that of them not following the normalcy of the light ray, which was why they weren't able to combine and be put in place with normal time. In the end, Rick was able to fix their reality, and fit it back into place like a puzzle into their normal time stream. It's like Inception, but for realities instead of dreams. Possibly, of course. "I will mess with time," crying and whimpering. |
The moving tesseract that you can see in many explanatory videos of the Fourth Dimension is more of an effort to depict how a fourth dimension object would look like in a Fourth Dimension. They rotate it around so that you can have the feeling you are watching it from all angles at the same time, which is impossible to, because technically we see things in 2D and our brain process them to understand their depth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I&feature=youtu.be
A Fourth Dimension object would have another dimension beyond width, height and depth.
They way I understood things in this episode they were talking more about the Many-worlds interpretation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation
The writers just added some threat of ceasing to exist for suspense reasons.
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Oh My God that was so good! uuuggghhhhh....I don't want to wait for more!!!!!
Bet with Adamblaziken:
I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.
AbbathTheGrim said:
The moving tesseract that you can see in many explanatory videos of the Fourth Dimension is more of an effort to depict how a fourth dimension object would look like in a Fourth Dimension. They rotate it around so that you can have the feeling you are watching it from all angles at the same time, which is impossible to, because technically we see things in 2D and our brain process them to understand their depth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I&feature=youtu.be A Fourth Dimension object would have another dimension beyond width, height and depth. They way I understood things in this episode they were talking more about the Many-worlds interpretation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation The writers just added some threat of ceasing to exist for suspense reasons. |
More spoilers.
Yes, it's part of the many-world theory, but the use in the first episode, the many worlds theory goes in deeper, like Inception. We can say there's an infinite amount of Ricks and Mortys and Summers in different universes, right? But all those other doppelgangers don't have a direct cause and effect with any other RM&S(Rick, Morty & Summer) in this episode. In this episode though, the world pertains only to this specific RM&S, no other universe rick and morty and summer are involved. Say if any of the other ricks died within this RM&S, they would have died as well because their existence would collapse without them. The RM&S that we're watching, the writing tells us that they are in themselves contained and if there is a split, it would be death because they aren't suppose to split. They were the Originals and in this case the Many worlds theory cannot work within their concept. At the end of the episode, they all combine into one being, with everything that's occured being remembered in this solo reality. They were one RM&S, but if they others died, they're specific reality would be destroyed as well. So yeah, it is Many-world theory, but it goes deeper, more confined to a specific MR&S and their Time stream.
As for the Tesseract, it's just a mind exercise. The 4D model of a cube being rotated, it doesn't necessarily have to be rotated, but if it were, it would look like the video that's linked below. This is having to do with an extra dimension. And this is why Rick and Morty is such a great show. They understand the concepts of how you may think of a 4 dimensional object by using mind exercises. You cannot see a 4 dimensional object, but you can see it's shadow in the 3rd dimension. Image 4 segments, all the same cube, but due to either duration or something else, it is in flux of position and it would seem as if it were rotating. As, say Donnie Darko, with the long ungelating line from birth to death, duration or just faith is what's making it worm like in that movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WyreE9ZkI
My head is hurting just trying to grasp the concept myself.
| Ouroboros24 said: More spoilers. Yes, it's part of the many-world theory, but the use in the first episode, the many worlds theory goes in deeper, like Inception. We can say there's an infinite amount of Ricks and Mortys and Summers in different universes, right? But all those other doppelgangers don't have a direct cause and effect with any other RM&S(Rick, Morty & Summer) in this episode. In this episode though, the world pertains only to this specific RM&S, no other universe rick and morty and summer are involved. Say if any of the other ricks died within this RM&S, they would have died as well because their existence would collapse without them. The RM&S that we're watching, the writing tells us that they are in themselves contained and if there is a split, it would be death because they aren't suppose to split. They were the Originals and in this case the Many worlds theory cannot work within their concept. At the end of the episode, they all combine into one being, with everything that's occured being remembered in this solo reality. They were one RM&S, but if they others died, they're specific reality would be destroyed as well. So yeah, it is Many-world theory, but it goes deeper, more confined to a specific MR&S and their Time stream. As for the Tesseract, it's just a mind exercise. The 4D model of a cube being rotated, it doesn't necessarily have to be rotated, but if it were, it would look like the video that's linked below. This is having to do with an extra dimension. And this is why Rick and Morty is such a great show. They understand the concepts of how you may think of a 4 dimensional object by using mind exercises. You cannot see a 4 dimensional object, but you can see it's shadow in the 3rd dimension. Image 4 segments, all the same cube, but due to either duration or something else, it is in flux of position and it would seem as if it were rotating. As, say Donnie Darko, with the long ungelating line from birth to death, duration or just faith is what's making it worm like in that movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WyreE9ZkI My head is hurting just trying to grasp the concept myself. |
The "more deeper" consequences to every of the characters from the different realities is the result from the writers using their science fiction freedom to create that element of suspense and threat I was talking about. I related what we saw in that episode to the most fitting established idea I know of. It may not fit perfectly to the many-worlds interpretation, but that is due to the freedom the writers took at the moment of writing. And that is perfect :D I love shows that mess with Science and throw our minds to fly.
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Renewed for Season 3!
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oh wow! Season 2 just started and now Season 3 is confirmed. Funny show!
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