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What kind of a question is this? Trying to be a serious question? Why wouldn't I hire, as long as they were fit for the position.



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Is it time to post pics? Making us insecure wether it's a transsexual or not?



 

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Are they as (or more) qualified than the other human beings in consideration for hire? If they are, absolutely I would. You'd have to be a pretty disgusting person to see another person as anything other than a fellow human on this earth who just wants to live their life the way they want. No harm in that.



NiKKoM said:
Is it time to post pics? Making us insecure wether it's a transsexual or not?


What's sad is if you posted this in a different thread where no one knew what it might be about people would talk about how "hott" and "beautiful" she was... (which she is) Then if you were to point out (s)he's a transgender or anything other than a 100% 'female' people automatically get homophobic and start saying how "gross" she is. You have to be a pretty shitty person to have this mindset. 



Mr.Playstation said:

I'm sorry your first sentence already makes your whole post irrelevant. Sales are important. Companies have morals only when they don't hurt their income. The world isn't black and white. Everyone's going to do what's best for them and their family even if it means hurting someone else.

 

Also comparing a Transgender to a gay person, a black person, a woman and a Muslim is horribly discriminatory on your part. Sexuality and gender doesn't have anything to do with a public rapresentitive but image does. You may not like this fact but it's the truth no matter how harsh it sounds.


No, sales aren't important when they encourage discrimination. If you're on Earth and you refuse to hire a black man to be a chef because you're afraid racists won't eat at your restaurant, you're a fucking asshole who deserves jail time. We are apart of a progressing society. That kind bigoted of shit doesn't fly anymore, and sales are a weaker than weak excuse for it. You don't get a free pass on being a discriminatory asshole because you want to save a couple of dollars.

And are you seriously, seriously, trying to suggest that, in defending trangendered people from what I proved through a perfect comparative example was blatant discrimination, I am somehow discriminating transgendered people? In what wacked out world does anyone come to that conclusion?



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Chasesdaddy84 said:
NiKKoM said:
Is it time to post pics? Making us insecure wether it's a transsexual or not?


What's sad is if you posted this in a different thread where no one knew what it might be about people would talk about how "hott" and "beautiful" she was... (which she is) Then if you were to point out (s)he's a transgender or anything other than a 100% 'female' people automatically get homophobic and start saying how "gross" she is. You have to be a pretty shitty person to have this mindset. 


Wait, you can be accepting of trans-culture but not necessarily find trans attractive for that reason. People still have their right to have preferences. Assuming we were rating the hotness of women, if knowing they are trans makes them less attractive to you, even by a factor of 100, that's your prerogative



Chasesdaddy84 said:
NiKKoM said:
Is it time to post pics? Making us insecure wether it's a transsexual or not?


What's sad is if you posted this in a different thread where no one knew what it might be about people would talk about how "hott" and "beautiful" she was... (which she is) Then if you were to point out (s)he's a transgender or anything other than a 100% 'female' people automatically get homophobic and start saying how "gross" she is. You have to be a pretty shitty person to have this mindset. 


There is nothing shitty about it - fake is not hot. Not only do you know that the appearance is fake, like a sex robot/android, but the obvious internal issues of a man who would do that to themselves is also not particularly attractive. 



BMaker11 said:
Mr.Playstation said:
spemanig said:
Mr.Playstation said:
No, I wouldn't if he/she was an obvious transgender due to a possible hit in sales but the few in real life transgender I've seen have always at least at a first glance looked like the gender they wanted to be so if that's the case and he/she was the most qualified. I would still hire a transgender person.


Like it's been said in this thread, sales are irrelevant in an ethical issue like this. If it's between doing the right thing and doing the wrong thing, you do the right thing. If I took your first sentence, and changed the word transgender to any other monirity, it would come off as extremely discriminatory.

"No, I wouldn't (hire) if he/she was an obvious gay person due to a possible hit in sales but the few in real life gay people I've seen have always at least at a first glance looked straight so if that's the case and he/she was the most qualified. "

"No, I wouldn't (hire)  if he/she was an obvious black person due to a possible hit in sales but the few in real life black people I've seen have always at least at a first glance acted "white" so if that's the case and he/she was the most qualified."

"No, I wouldn't (hire) if she was an obvious woman due to a possible hit in sales but the few in real life women I've seen have always at least at a first glance looked masculine enough so if that's the case and he/she was the most qualified."

"No, I wouldn't (hire) if he/she was an obvious Muslim due to a possible hit in sales but the few in real life Muslims I've seen have always at least at a first glance looked Christian/Jewish so if that's the case and he/she was the most qualified."

Again, these aren't jobs selling sex. These are jobs selling a service. The thread already clarified that the candidate in question is 100% qualified and professional. The literal only reason you'd be not hiring them would be through blatant, unabashed, super discrimination. Abercrombie & Fitch couldn't get away with it when it came to race, and no other company gets to get away with it when it comes to gender.



I'm sorry your first sentence already makes your whole post irrelevant. Sales are important. Companies have morals only when they don't hurt their income. The world isn't black and white. Everyone's going to do what's best for them and their family even if it means hurting someone else.

 

Also comparing a Transgender to a gay person, a black person, a woman and a Muslim is horribly discriminatory on your part. Sexuality and gender doesn't have anything to do with a public rapresentitive but image does. You may not like this fact but it's the truth no matter how harsh it sounds.

Remember when Indiana's RFRA law passed and the state went crazy? Then that pizza shop was like "we won't serve gay people". Guess what? They went out of business.

Sales are, indeed, important. And when your company is unethical, you'll lose even more sales than you'd lose because a few people were uncomfortable around a transgender person.

 

Gays are largely accepted though, transgenders are still a widely disliked minority. 



I would not hire a man who dresses like a woman. someone that unstable is unreliable.

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If it is obvious that he/she is the best candidate for the job, of course I would without a second thought.