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American people really need understand they don't live in 1776 anymore..

Stop living in the past.



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yum123 said:
DialgaMarine said:

 What's your solution then? Hate to break the news to you, but here in reality, the only thing that can prevent a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Why do you think that the most dangerous places in the country are the ones that happen to also have the strictest gun laws, while the safest are the ones with the most leniant? I'm not saying we all go willy nilly wild west with guns, but creating laws that make it more difficult for people to own firearms, simply removes the guns from law abiding citizens. Words on a paper aren't going to stop criminals from being criminals.

4 Marines are going to be put in the ground in a few days, all because the liberals in this country are so damn afraid of servicemembers (men and women who are specifically trained to use them) from carrying firearms in places where they have no other form of security and are completely exposed. 



youve gotto be fucking with us right?? 

 

all the safest places have NO guns in them. here is new zealand shootings are unheard off because guns are illegal. 

 

typical extremist Americans, (obliouslyt not all), such close minded ignorance in that country,jeez it really is damaging for the rest of the world. 

Sorry but NZ has a population of, what, 5M. It's much easier to regulate firearms there. Beautiful country, btw - especially the South Island.



You guys hear the news that our marines should not wear their uniforms after this attack? So now our own trained forces should now hide in our own country?

Why don't you put the flag at half-staff like you did with the Boston Marathon bombing, the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, or the mass shooting at Fort Hood Texas?

Obama's shoulder shrug on these brave soldiers massacred in TN is because none of them look like Trevon Martin. pic.twitter.com/Si1BbmFV8b

— David A. Clarke, Jr. (@SheriffClarke) July 19, 2015

"Everything President Obama touches turns to crap"
-Sheriff David Clarke



Jimbo1337 said:
You guys hear the news that our marines should not wear their uniforms after this attack? So now our own trained forces should now hide in our own country?

Why don't you put the flag at half-staff like you did with the Boston Marathon bombing, the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, or the mass shooting at Fort Hood Texas?

Obama's shoulder shrug on these brave soldiers massacred in TN is because none of them look like Trevon Martin. pic.twitter.com/Si1BbmFV8b

— David A. Clarke, Jr. (@SheriffClarke) July 19, 2015

"Everything President Obama touches turns to crap"
-Sheriff David Clarke

soldiers die, that's sort of part of their job - has the flag been at half-staff during all the recent wars the USA was involved in?



baloofarsan said:
Has there been any shooter that has been shot down by a civilian ever? Is there any time that civilians with guns have been able to react to this kind of threat?
Honest question!


yeah never try to defend yourself 

whenever someone attacks you always depend on daddy to take care of you

just remember that if daddy starts to abuse his power over you that you placed yourself in that situation to begin with



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brendude13 said:
SocialistSlayer said:

Well 1 because there are already over 400 million guns in circulation in the US. how to plan on making those disappear.

2 even ifif you somehow made hundreds of millions of guns disappear. We have a completely open and pourous southern border. How do you expect we stop the influx of weapons from this dangerous open border.

And lastly and most importantly because its an unalianable human right.

...And this is where I leave this thread.

 

you probably should if you don't understand that defending yourself is in fact a right

it just amazes me that people do not understand the consequences of leaving all of the responsiblity for their wellbeing in the hands of other flawed human beings



o_O.Q said:

 

you probably should if you don't understand that defending yourself is in fact a right

it just amazes me that people do not understand the consequences of leaving all of the responsiblity for their wellbeing in the hands of other flawed human beings

indeed, I'm amazed that you don't understand you leave your wellbeing in the hands of other flawed human beings by giving them guns

btw I just read the human rights bill again, nope there is no right to defend yourself, because if the human rights are observed there is no need to



Lafiel said:
Jimbo1337 said:
You guys hear the news that our marines should not wear their uniforms after this attack? So now our own trained forces should now hide in our own country?

Why don't you put the flag at half-staff like you did with the Boston Marathon bombing, the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, or the mass shooting at Fort Hood Texas?

Obama's shoulder shrug on these brave soldiers massacred in TN is because none of them look like Trevon Martin. pic.twitter.com/Si1BbmFV8b

— David A. Clarke, Jr. (@SheriffClarke) July 19, 2015

"Everything President Obama touches turns to crap"
-Sheriff David Clarke

soldiers die, that's sort of part of their job - has the flag been at half-staff during all the recent wars the USA was involved in?

Did you even read the three examples that I posted?  

Boston Marathon bombing -  Random civilians

Sandy Hook Elementary School - Children

Fort Hood Texas - Soldiers at an American military base

All of those examples were shootings at different targets, resulting in the flag be put at half-staff under President Obama.

Now we have 4 marines and one sailor dead at a marine recruiting center in Chattanooga Tennessee. How is that any different from Fort Hood Texas?  You have military personnel that are livid that President Obama didn't put the flag at half-staff.  That speaks volumes....



Lafiel said:
o_O.Q said:

 

you probably should if you don't understand that defending yourself is in fact a right

it just amazes me that people do not understand the consequences of leaving all of the responsiblity for their wellbeing in the hands of other flawed human beings

indeed, I'm amazed that you don't understand you leave your wellbeing in the hands of other flawed human beings by giving them guns

btw I just read the human rights bill again, nope there is no right to defend yourself, because if the human rights are observed there is no need to

 

why not start banning rope, acid, knives etc etc etc?

they can all be used to harm right? and apparently knives kill more than handguns yearly... as i said the problem is not guns and never has been, it is that people sometimes wish to harm other people and its not going to stop

 

and buying into this silly idea that we can just put systems in place so no one will be harmed and all will be provided for is how dictatorships are formed by the very people they oppress



o_O.Q said:

why not start banning rope, acid, knives etc etc etc?

they can all be used to harm right? and apparently knives kill more than handguns yearly... as i said the problem is not guns and never has been, it is that people sometimes wish to harm other people and its not going to stop

 

and buying into this silly idea that we can just put systems in place so no one will be harmed and all will be provided for is how dictatorships are formed by the very people they oppress

Hah, it seems we'll never stop seeing people who decry progress, because we'll 'never stop every instance of evil'.  So yeah, might as well give up on it all, right?