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daredevil.shark on 30 June 2015
baloofarsan said:


No one is perfect.

Nintendo loses Wii motion controller lawsuit to Philips

Source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/23/5833560/nintendo-loses-uk-lawsuit-regarding-wii-motion-controls

Nintendo loses 3DS patent lawsuit

Federal jury awards former Sony veteran $30.2 million in damages; Nintendo says verdict will not impact 3DS sales.

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-loses-3ds-patent-lawsuit/1100-6405297/



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megaman79 on 30 June 2015
Roronaa_chan said:
Thanks Nintendo. I also don't want Sony copying whatever it is you do


Yeah, what a TERRIBLE idea that is. (umm, Rumble Pack also says hi)



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

Tachikoma on 30 June 2015
baloofarsan said:

This infographics tries to prove that Sony steal from everyone:

 

Its also bullshit.

It lists May 1998 for ps1 rumble, Dual Analog released in Japan with rumble in April 1997, 3 months before the N64 rumble pak.
Sega saturn 3D Pad had the first analog stick in July of 1996, 2 months before the N64 controller.
The sidewinder Gamepad Pro they show as releasing with Analog in 1996 is false too, it was released in 1999 and wasnt true analog, it was a combined digital proportional dpad.

Lots of the other claims are half baked, too.

Always hated infografics that pray on the hopes that the people who spread it around wont actually check the claims.



daredevil.shark on 30 June 2015
Tachikoma said:

Its also bullshit.

It lists May 1998 for ps1 rumble, Dual Analog released in Japan with rumble in April 1997, 3 months before the N64 rumble pak.
Sega saturn 3D Pad had the first analog stick in July of 1996, 2 months before the N64 controller.
The sidewinder Gamepad Pro they show as releasing with Analog in 1996 is false too, it was released in 1999 and wasnt true analog, it was a combined digital proportional dpad.

Lots of the other claims are half baked, too.

Always hated infografics that pray on the hopes that the people who spread it around wont actually check the claims.


Amen.



Roronaa_chan on 30 June 2015
megaman79 said:
Roronaa_chan said:
Thanks Nintendo. I also don't want Sony copying whatever it is you do


Yeah, what a TERRIBLE idea that is. (umm, Rumble Pack also says hi)

 

It's beyond terrible.



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pokoko on 30 June 2015
Alkibiádēs said:
bananaking21 said:


care to explain how did the PS4 copy the WiiU and XB1?

Simple, the Vita works like a Gamepad for the PS4.

Two people/companies can have the same idea independantly from each other though. But Nintendo was first in this regard.

That's not true, actually.

"Interactivity between Sony's home video game consoles and handheld video game console is traced back as far as 2006, prior to the PlayStation 3's launch, when journalists noticed a PlayStation Portable icon, with the title "Remote Play", on pre-release versions of their PS3.[4] The functionality was officially revealed just prior to the PS3's launch in October 2006, at Sony's "Gamer's Day" event, where Sony demonstrated the ability to transfer the PS3's output to a PSP instead of a television, through showing downloaded PlayStation 1 games and movie films being transmitted to a PSP's screen and speakers.[5] Sony announced that all original PlayStation 1 games would support the feature, but they had to be digital, not disc-based, media from the PS3's internal harddrive.[6][7] This later changed by the end of 2007, when a firmware update made it so any PlayStation 1 game was compatible with Remote Play, even disc-based ones.[8]"   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Play

A lot of the facts people bring up in these threads seem to link "successfully marketed" with "invented".  For example, the Wii certainly was not the first to use a type of motion control.



Roronaa_chan on 30 June 2015
Alkibiádēs said:

Simple, the Vita works like a Gamepad for the PS4.

 


Wow. So this is what people on the Internet write.

The Vita must be such a rare luxury item that nobody gets to know it.



bananaking21 on 30 June 2015
Alkibiádēs said:
bananaking21 said:


care to explain how did the PS4 copy the WiiU and XB1?

Simple, the Vita works like a Gamepad for the PS4.

Two people/companies can have the same idea independantly from each other though. But Nintendo was first in this regard.


Remote play was on the PS3 and PSP.... so yeah...

 

and disregarding that fact, PS4's success isnt from remote play. remote play is just one simple feature the PS4 has. 



JRPGfan on 30 June 2015
Tachikoma said:
baloofarsan said:

It lists May 1998 for ps1 rumble, Dual Analog released in Japan with rumble in April 1997, 3 months before the N64 rumble pak.
Sega saturn 3D Pad had the first analog stick in July of 1996, 2 months before the N64 controller.
The sidewinder Gamepad Pro they show as releasing with Analog in 1996 is false too, it was released in 1999 and wasnt true analog, it was a combined digital proportional dpad.

Lots of the other claims are half baked, too.

Always hated infografics that pray on the hopes that the people who spread it around wont actually check the claims.

+1 for saying this, it needed saying.

 

daredevil.shark said:
baloofarsan said:


No one is perfect.

Nintendo loses Wii motion controller lawsuit to Philips

Source: http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/23/5833560/nintendo-loses-uk-lawsuit-regarding-wii-motion-controls

Nintendo loses 3DS patent lawsuit

Federal jury awards former Sony veteran $30.2 million in damages; Nintendo says verdict will not impact 3DS sales.

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-loses-3ds-patent-lawsuit/1100-6405297/

Same for this.

 

pokoko said:
Alkibiádēs said:
bananaking21 said:

care to explain how did the PS4 copy the WiiU and XB1?

Simple, the Vita works like a Gamepad for the PS4.

Two people/companies can have the same idea independantly from each other though. But Nintendo was first in this regard.

That's not true, actually.

"Interactivity between Sony's home video game consoles and handheld video game console is traced back as far as 2006, prior to the PlayStation 3's launch, when journalists noticed a PlayStation Portable icon, with the title "Remote Play", on pre-release versions of their PS3.[4] The functionality was officially revealed just prior to the PS3's launch in October 2006, at Sony's "Gamer's Day" event, where Sony demonstrated the ability to transfer the PS3's output to a PSP instead of a television, through showing downloaded PlayStation 1 games and movie films being transmitted to a PSP's screen and speakers.[5] Sony announced that all original PlayStation 1 games would support the feature, but they had to be digital, not disc-based, media from the PS3's internal harddrive.[6][7] This later changed by the end of 2007, when a firmware update made it so any PlayStation 1 game was compatible with Remote Play, even disc-based ones.[8]"   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Play

A lot of the facts people bring up in these threads seem to link "successfully marketed" with "invented".  For example, the Wii certainly was not the first to use a type of motion control.

*mindblown gif*

 

 

So Nintendo got:

the motion controll idea from Philips

the 3ds 's "3d" from sony

the analog stick from sega

the rumble pack from sony

the gamepad remoteplay feature from sony

 

Everyone takes from everyone, if someone has a good idea. The gameing market is better off for it.

Nintendo arnt saints, they copy & steal good ideas from others as well.



97alexk on 30 June 2015

after the NX fusion console reveal, 3-4 years later, sony announces Playstation fusion xD im calling it right now