Anyone else alarmed by the rumors that Turkey is planning an invasion of Northern Syria because of the success that the Syrian Kurds are having over ISIS?  Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan appears hellbent on stopping the Syrian Kurds from controlling even more of Syria's northern border.  It's strange that our supposed ally did nothing when ISIS was slaughtering people and even attempted to hold back crucial help in the battle for Kobani but now wants to go in.

It's time that the West wakes up to the fact that it's not worth trying to keep this country as an ally when the people running it have done far more to help ISIS than to harm it.  If they do invade we need to start hitting Turkey with major sanctions to start crippling its economy and to also eject it from NATO.  They seem to want to play the game of taking advantage of good relations with us (trade, military support, etc) but do not want to do anything to help us. 

Here's a country that watched ISIS behead Westerners and watched them encourage attacks on our soil and then stood in our way at every turn in our battle to destroy ISiS.  It's pretty obvious who our real allies are and who we need to start isolating and weakening in order to stop the growing threat of militant Islamic fundamentalism.  It's time for our leaders to wake up and take off the kid gloves and start acting like the powers they are because it's obvious that nobody respects or fears us anymore.

Obama needs to become the leader that we need and stop with the half measures and trying to win the support of every country.  I may not be a fan of George W. Bush but I do think he was right when he said "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists".  This goes for the countries helping the al-Nusra Front in Syria as well, that support needs to end now and the al-Nusra Front bombed out of existance.

I've always thought Turkey supported ISIS. The Gulf states' rulers also support ISIS but everybody already knows that.

this is nothing new

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/28/1137620/-Times-of-London-Shipload-of-Looted-Missiles-From-Libya-Arrives-in-Turkey

after the Lybian war weapons were smuggled through turkey into Syria to be used by the rebels to destabalise the country

and who was it that supported the rebels? the us of course

( 2011 ) http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/assad-must-go-obama-says/2011/08/18/gIQAelheOJ_story.html

they knew all about the weapons being smuggling in and the atrocities being commited

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-03-05/foreign-weapons-reach-syrian-moderate-rebels-kerry-says

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/i-am-not-fighting-againstalqaida-itsnot-our-problem-says-wests-last-hope-in-syria-9233424.html

"Jamal Maarouf, the leader of the Syrian Revolutionary Front (SRF) told The Independent that the fight against al-Qa’ida was “not our problem” and admitted his fighters conduct joint operations with Jabhat al-Nusra – the official al-Qa’ida branch in Syria."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/foreign-affairs-defense/syria-arming-the-rebels/syrian-rebels-describe-u-s-backed-training-in-qatar/


so the us backed the initial destabalisation of the country and they allowed isis to continue the process

its all going to plan

and the general public don't really seem to care so whatever

edit: just read the op properly 

"then stood in our way at every turn in our battle to destroy ISiS. "  lol ISIS is doing its job dude

" It's time for our leaders to wake up and take off the kid gloves"  that's the plan but they have to orchestrate all these events so that you'll buy that there is justification for destabalising and destroying other countries

I need to brush up on some world current affairs.

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/05/19/iraqi-troops-abandon-tanks-artillery-to-isis-in-ramadi-loss/
It seems a lot of USA comrades supports ISIS...

It's well known that Turkey is against Kurdish home rule and have been subugating their own kurdish population in response to calls for a kurdish self Government for decades.

Turkeys fear of kurdish inroads in Northern Iraq is whats driving this  the same fear they had during the gulf war , Turkey mobilised on it's border with Iraq in a show of force during the gulf war because it was worried that  with the success of US kurd forces in the north, and the capitulation of the Hussain regime it could lead to the Iraqi Kurds creating a Kurdish state and this in turn would see increased pressure from their own Kurdish people ,so it's not about Turkey  supporting ISIS , but Turkey's fear of  Kurdish inroads in Northern Iraq, the kurds themselves are some what hamstrung by the fact that their traditional lands span the Borders of Iraq , syria and turkey. 

I have a question, I'm not really knowledgeable with the situation between Turkey and the Kurds but can't Turkey just give the Kurds autonomy in the lands that are traditional Kurds but is now under Turkey?

And why are they against the formation of a Kurdish states that is outside of their borders too?

Because Kurds never had a country to begin with. One could argue that the medians were the predecessor of the kurds but that's just a theory that needs further studies.

This  and even if there was a country, you know many country who would lose size and power for nothing ?  corse island wanted to be free from france,  irland & scotland, island from GB, tibet from china etc...no country free other ppl unless they can win in a war or there is a financial reason to do  !

The question about why Turkey is against a Kurdish state outside it's borders , is simply because it would put added pressure on them to give their Kurdish people similar rights , and with all Goverments who have an ethnic population wanting some type of independence , it quite often becomes a us against them situation and reprecusions lead to both sides vilifying each other and that brings to the surface  the inherent racism that is bound to be bubbling under the surface ,so you end up with no trust.