Your entitiled to your opinoion even if your the minority. Myself, I loved it, there was very few games that immersed me into the games world more then the last of us did.
Your entitiled to your opinoion even if your the minority. Myself, I loved it, there was very few games that immersed me into the games world more then the last of us did.
ils411 said:
dunno how old you are..but Mario 3 didn't wow me at all. that honor goes to double dragon 2. But I'll agree with Midgar and Psycho Mantis. I havent played TLOU or any other game this gen but I will say this There is no perfect "GOTG" or "GOTY". A game may get the majority praise, but there will always.."ALWAYS" be a portion of the population who did not enjoy or even disliked a so called "GOTG" or "GOTY". I respect that and understand that everyone has their own taste. heck I hate Halo to hell..all of the Halo games. But that doesn't mean that I dont recognize its greatness. I can see why a lot of people like it and i wont go around saying that is just an "ok" game or a "meh" game. coz its not, its a "great game" and to others, the pinacle of greatness. I'm not refering to you in particular, but everyone should understand that just because a game didnt' hold up to your standards or taste doesnt' mean that it makes the majority's feelings for it wrong. it just shows that you have a different pallet that everyone else. Dont look at it with your own eyes but try and look at it with the perspective of those who feel that TLOU was really really great and that will help you understand. |
For the people that love it that's great. Everyone who plays games has certain titles that they regard highly and there will always be people who agree/disagree. I will never tell someone their opinion is wrong. The Last of Us just didn't blow me away. There are tons of people who will disagree with how highly I hold the first Gears of War. But for me, it was the first title of the seventh generation that truly showcased what we could expect for the rest of the generation. At the time, the graphics, presentation, and cover system were amazing (I know kill.switch did it first, but how many people actually played it) and the online co-op campaign was something consoles never had seen before and Epic nailed it. If someone who had never played it and gave it a try now, I guarantee it would not have the same impact on them. That's were I completely agree with you. It does come down to perspective.
Also, I'm 36 years old and Double Dragon 2 was pretty awesome. Jumping up and doing the spin kick for the first time is another one of those gaming moments I will never forget. That's why it is so hard for people who did not play the games I would consider to be classics when they were first released to understand the impact those games had at the time. I used to play Wizards and Warriors for hours on end, if some one played that now I'm sure they would think it was terrible. But at the time, I thought it was fantastic. Perspective.
If that's your take
For me it's pretty much the only critically acclaimed game in a ~decade that actually deserves it, on any platform and by any company.
JazzB1987 said:
It is 30fps is not an objctive criteria either, just an industry standard. If we lived in a world with less powerfull GPUs, the standards might have benn 20fps or 15,so the framerate isnt objective by any means So by your logic a game where you lead a small black dot from a poin A to point B in and 10 second loop (at ROCK STEADY 60fps!!) would deserve a better score than MK and TLoU because its mundane mechanics are more polished?
Maximum score (10/10) doesnt equal a perfect product. Even on a school test, you can get an A+ (an equal to 10/10 review score) and dont have 100% of all the points.Lots of reviews and reviewers mention and reflect that. This is a significant hole in your logic right here. Value is, once again, subjctive. So how are they supposed to ''analyze'' that?
Of those aspects, only replay value and visuals can be rated objectively (technical side of visuals that is) |
Pipedream24 said: For the people that love it that's great. Everyone who plays games has certain titles that they regard highly and there will always be people who agree/disagree. I will never tell someone their opinion is wrong. The Last of Us just didn't blow me away. There are tons of people who will disagree with how highly I hold the first Gears of War. But for me, it was the first title of the seventh generation that truly showcased what we could expect for the rest of the generation. At the time, the graphics, presentation, and cover system were amazing (I know kill.switch did it first, but how many people actually played it) and the online co-op campaign was something consoles never had seen before and Epic nailed it. If someone who had never played it and gave it a try now, I guarantee it would not have the same impact on them. That's were I completely agree with you. It does come down to perspective. Also, I'm 36 years old and Double Dragon 2 was pretty awesome. Jumping up and doing the spin kick for the first time is another one of those gaming moments I will never forget. That's why it is so hard for people who did not play the games I would consider to be classics when they were first released to understand the impact those games had at the time. I used to play Wizards and Warriors for hours on end, if some one played that now I'm sure they would think it was terrible. But at the time, I thought it was fantastic. Perspective. |
I respect your opinion and understand where you're coming from. Different folks, different strocks. Your opinion has as much validity as those who loved TLOU. The only difference is that you're in the minority. It all comes down to personal preference, perspective and taste.
Gears felt really slugish to me, only managed to clock in an hour of play before the RROD set in but in that short time, i could see what plenty of people liked about it.
So...you're 36 eh... DAMN! YOU OLD! LOL! j/k... looks like we come from the same gaming generation. For generation/console deffinging games I have
Atari - combat: its like a vs game with planes and tanks with different mechanics. it was stupidly fun and the best game i played on the atari
nes - double dragon 2. super spin kick and super knee for the win
genesis/snes generation - golden axe and super mario
n64/saturn/psone - gt and castlevania sotn
ps2/xbox/dreamcast/cube - gt3 and halo
ps3/xbox360/wii - sorry, lots of great games but to me, no game was worthy of being named as generation deffining...
but the most fun that i have ever had while playing games was counter strike...me and my buddies use to play this game everyday during collage. even skipped some classes just to play... it was stupidly fun. and i mean REALLY FUN!
PenguinZ said: I thought it was a good game. It's hard to push it to that next level, because I found the AI hilariously bad at times... It completely broke the immersion of the game, which is unfortunate to say the least. |
This. I'll never understand a game getting a 10/10 rating when it has immersion breakingly bad AI. The counter-argument that the AI is intentionally programmed badly because people would rather witness crappy AI than get killed because of what an NPC is doing doesn't hold water. Rendering something atrocious on purpose doesn't make it okay. There are so many better solutions possible than settling for garbage AI. For example, NPC's could have been invisibly tethered to the players character. Or how about something realistic like having Ellie climb on Joel's back rather than just having her wander around directly in front of clickers. You can't choose to settle for horrendous AI that shatter the mood of your gameplay experience and then turn around and still call the game 10/10 perfect. Whether a flaw exists intentionally or not, it's still a flaw. And when you're talking about a flaw that completely breaks your immersion into the experience, that's a flaw big enough to merit knocking points off for. So yeah, I feel the game is vastly overrated.
Mandalore76 said:
This. I'll never understand a game getting a 10/10 rating when it has immersion breakingly bad AI. The counter-argument that the AI is intentionally programmed badly because people would rather witness crappy AI than get killed because of what an NPC is doing doesn't hold water. Rendering something atrocious on purpose doesn't make it okay. There are so many better solutions possible than settling for garbage AI. For example, NPC's could have been invisibly tethered to the players character. Or how about something realistic like having Ellie climb on Joel's back rather than just having her wander around directly in front of clickers. You can't choose to settle for horrendous AI that shatter the mood of your gameplay experience and then turn around and still call the game 10/10 perfect. Whether a flaw exists intentionally or not, it's still a flaw. And when you're talking about a flaw that completely breaks your immersion into the experience, that's a flaw big enough to merit knocking points off for. So yeah, I feel the game is vastly overrated. |
I agree that it is a flaw but doesn't mean the game isn't a 10/10 or game of the generation. There are no flawless games. They don't exist. 10/10 simply means a must buy... not perfect.
It is one of my favorite games. Story is very well executed and the gameplay is very solid. Some of the best visuals in a game at the time too. Truly hope they make a sequel ;o)
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IGN put it quite nicely, to explain what a perfect score means.
So all the people trying to force their self-centered view of a perfect score on everyone else here should take notice, and put it to rest already:
10.0 - MASTERPIECE
Simply put: this is our highest recommendation. There’s no such thing as a truly perfect game, but those that earn a Masterpiece label from IGN come as close as we could reasonably hope for. These are classics in the making that we hope and expect will influence game design for years to come, as other developers learn from their shining examples.
Examples: The Last of Us, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Grand Theft Auto IV
http://ca.ign.com/wikis/ign/Game_Reviews
I've got no idea how the conversation has gone so far but all I can say it: 'this is the best game ever created and the most important evolution of the gaming media'. It grew up 'ONCE', let's hope it can grow up again.
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