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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 March 2015
Locknuts said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/indiana-defines-stupidity-as-religion

Holy shit!

Its just a joke, but thats just the gist.LOL



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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 March 2015
CosmicSex said:
But where does it stop. Can a Dr. Say they are protected from Jews. And who defines what classifies as a religious belief. Skit too short? No services. You don't believe in my arbitrary deity? I can't serve you. The role of the government is to protect its citizens. Not to assist in discrimination.

And why would you want to be around a bunch of people who only believe what you believe. It sould so unhealthy.


Thats the point of stunting peoples intellectual growth, so they cannot understand that having a nation which is a safe harbor for varous ideologies helps rather than hurts. The problem with systems and people is that people mistaken the purity of whatever law or belief they follow. They bastardize it. For instance, communism is looked upon as a demonic thing, because when imperfect people wield it it becomes corrupt. Left alone the idea is always much better. The problem people cannot gather about religion is its 2000 year old moral dogma which has a fix on otherwise intelligent peoples ability to see and understand the world through science and actual practical education, which has application capacity after studies.



mornelithe on 26 March 2015
Mr Khan said:
It's the petulant lashing-out of people on the wrong side of history and running out of options.

A similar "religious freedom" push came after civil rights to justify segregated private (religious) schools and universities. The supreme court didn't sit for it (except for William Reinquist).

The next Presidency is going to be very important, in that reguard.  There's pontentially what, 3 or 4 seats up for grabs in the near future?



FunFan on 26 March 2015
CosmicSex said:
t3mporary_126 said:


No because that club has most likely adverised that that they are a female only club. If they did not, then yeah, they could very likely be sued. Business that don't explicitly come forward about their stance against gays or lesbians should come forward because most Americans are accepting gays and lesbians as equals. Business that do not come forward should not need a law that helps them hide their belief. If they are afraid of advertising, "We only serve heterosexuals" will lose heterosexual customers as well, then that's their problem and not the gay and lesbian community. Not advertising their business policy and wasting a gay and lesbians' effort to do business with them is false advertising. 


Yes it would be discrimination.  And thats why it doesn't happen.  Straight people can go to gay clubs.  People need to get out more. 

It doesn't happen? Are you sure? 

Just one example:

http://www.golfillinois.com/departments/coursereviews/black-sheep-golf-club.htm



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ExplodingBlock on 26 March 2015

Four words
What the actual fuck



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The_Yoda on 26 March 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
The_Yoda said:
I said before people should be accepted warts and all. Perspective plays a huge roll in this. From a Christian perspective homosexuality is a sin or in my simplified example a wart. From a homosexual's perspective they may consider the view of homosexuality being sin as a wart. It depends from whose perspective you view things who is right and who is wrong. So many things in life boil down to perspective.


Ultimately religion societal progress hasn't occured in the US because of Christianity, its because of philosophy and humans rights movements. Religion was will always be used as an excuse for why people should be held down. Its just the way it is and when 78% of the country thinks like this, its very hard to find reason. This is not to say that everyone shouldn't have the ability to practice and believe in what they want. Thats what the forefathers wanted us to do and have the luxury to do. The problem with Christians that they are trying to force Christian dominant thinking into the political sphere and when that happens society will only fall from it. History books teach us how dangerous it is to mix church with state. 

If this was true the Babtist minister Martin Luther King Jr should have led a very different life wouldn't you say?



CosmicSex on 26 March 2015
FunFan said:
CosmicSex said:


Yes it would be discrimination.  And thats why it doesn't happen.  Straight people can go to gay clubs.  People need to get out more. 

It doesn't happen? Are you sure? 

Just one example:

http://www.golfillinois.com/departments/coursereviews/black-sheep-golf-club.htm

 

Straw man much.  We are talking about places of business. Not social meetups.



FunFan on 26 March 2015
CosmicSex said:
FunFan said:
CosmicSex said:


Yes it would be discrimination.  And thats why it doesn't happen.  Straight people can go to gay clubs.  People need to get out more. 

It doesn't happen? Are you sure? 

Just one example:

http://www.golfillinois.com/departments/coursereviews/black-sheep-golf-club.htm

 

Straw man much.  We are talking about places of business. Not social meetups.

But it has a $85,000 initiation fee. Hows that not a business?



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wilco on 26 March 2015
FunFan said:
CosmicSex said:


Yes it would be discrimination.  And thats why it doesn't happen.  Straight people can go to gay clubs.  People need to get out more. 

It doesn't happen? Are you sure? 

Just one example:

http://www.golfillinois.com/departments/coursereviews/black-sheep-golf-club.htm


I don't think you can equate seperating people by gender with things like sexual orientation or race. There are often legitimate reasons to seperate people by gender (that example is not one of them, but there is still precedence).



CosmicSex on 26 March 2015
FunFan said:
CosmicSex said:
FunFan said:

It doesn't happen? Are you sure? 

Just one example:

http://www.golfillinois.com/departments/coursereviews/black-sheep-golf-club.htm

 

Straw man much.  We are talking about places of business. Not social meetups.

But it has a $85,000 initiation fee. Hows that not a business?

Its a REALLY REALLY expensive club membership fee.