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Ssliasil on 09 March 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Ssliasil said:
Also arent you the same jackass thats whining all over Gamefaqs about this game?

Me? I've never been to Gamefaqs...


Not you, the TC :)



...uhh...ill just put my favorite quote of all time here.

"Welcome to Pain, the second of three...You have dealt the first...now deal with me!!"

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EpicLight on 09 March 2015

Can't they at least give a shot to a 1060p 60fps classic turn-based RPG? Sure we have almost the most recent classic-based turn-based RPG Lost Odyssey, but why aren't we getting more of that epicness?

Lost Odyssey still remains the modern/classic turn-based RPG, and the fact that we're not getting anything like it is really, really disappointing in the video game industry when devs are trying to hard to "revamp" and creating new ways of gameplay.



Hynad on 09 March 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Ssliasil said:
Ka-pi96 said:

@1st bold, if only that were true, then 99% of all JRPGs would actually be good, too bad it couldn't be further from the truth.

@2nd bold, have you watched the video? Repeatedly pressing square to attack is most certainly not an attack, magic etc menu.


Oooh so you're one of those guys that doesnt do research.  The ommited magic from the Demo because the effects were not ready for public viewing. 

You unlock a Summon in the Demo (Ramuh)... thats why that option isnt available.

Why should I do research? If they make the game look crap in the demo then that is their fault, not mine.


Considering the universal praise the demo is getting, I'd say it's more your close-mindedness' fault than theirs.



garywood on 09 March 2015
daredevil.shark said:
Better than unrealistic turn based games.

Yeah, wouldn't it be great if everything was realistic. Then it'd be almost the same as reality.......

....which we already have. And is fairly shit.



Ssliasil on 09 March 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Ssliasil said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Me? I've never been to Gamefaqs...


Not you, the TC :)

TC? Topic Creator? That is me...


Ahh its not the TC then...whoever that dude with the name that started with V was. 



...uhh...ill just put my favorite quote of all time here.

"Welcome to Pain, the second of three...You have dealt the first...now deal with me!!"

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Hynad on 09 March 2015
EpicLight said:

Can't they at least give a shot to a 1060p 60fps classic turn-based RPG? Sure we have almost the most recent classic-based turn-based RPG Lost Odyssey, but why aren't we getting more of that epicness?

Lost Odyssey still remains the modern/classic turn-based RPG, and the fact that we're not getting anything like it is really, really disappointing in the video game industry when devs are trying to hard to "revamp" and creating new ways of gameplay.


Lost Odyssey is godly. But sadly, good turn-based games like that cost a lot but don't sell much.

Final Fantasy games cost more and more to make. Square just wants to sell more and more in turn. So they try new, different things to entice newcomers and make the series more popular. If they lose some bitter long time fans in the process of making the appeal broader for the rest of the gamers out there, those who may never have been into the series because of the archaic turn-based gameplay,  then there's no harm really done. 



The Fury on 09 March 2015
shikamaru317 said:

It's not like Square Enix has said there won't be any more turn-based Final Fantasy games ever. If Hiroyuki Ito is indeed directing 16 as is rumored, don't you think it'll be turn based, considering the fact that all 3 of the previous FF games he directed were turn based? I'm guessing that Square didn't have a turn based game in development that was far enough along to be released in the near future, so they decided to turn Versus 13 into 15.

I understand that but it's also kind sad. At one point we had 7 - 10 out in like 4 years of each other. 13 was 5 years ago. To me I feel it is the other way round that they had all this work done and just wanted to to get it out, yet the new director is still saying it's 60% done. 10 years development and 60%? If they don't have another game ready after 13 part 3, what on earth are they working on? 14 was out so they must have had another game ready to be called 15, which is now 16?

Ah, well, whatever happens we won't get any of these games until a long time off, even 15 is a way off, Demo or not.



Hmm, pie.

Hynad on 09 March 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Hynad said:
EpicLight said:

Can't they at least give a shot to a 1060p 60fps classic turn-based RPG? Sure we have almost the most recent classic-based turn-based RPG Lost Odyssey, but why aren't we getting more of that epicness?

Lost Odyssey still remains the modern/classic turn-based RPG, and the fact that we're not getting anything like it is really, really disappointing in the video game industry when devs are trying to hard to "revamp" and creating new ways of gameplay.


Lost Odyssey is godly. But sadly, good turn-based games like that cost a lot but don't sell much.

Final Fantasy games cost more and more to make. Square just wants to sell more and more in turn. So they try new, different things to entice newcomers and make the series more popular. If they lose some long time fans in the process of making the appeal borader for the rest of the gamers out there, then no harm really done. 

I think in the case of Lost Odyssey that has much more to do with it being an Xbox exclusive than it being turn based...

Probably. Which makes it all the more a shame that they aren't porting the damn thing to the PC.



finalrpgfantasy on 09 March 2015

I thought we knew this since the first gameplay trailer was released years ago. Were people actually expecting a turn based game after years of knowing that this game was going to have a battle system somehow similar to the kingdom Hearts series?



IFireflyl on 09 March 2015
VXIII said:
IFireflyl said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yes, Witcher 3 is an action RPG, and I believe FFXV is as well. There are several key differences between an action RPG and a hack and slash in my opinion. Action RPG's are typically much longer for starters, much like other forms of RPG's. Action RPG's typically have some form of skill tree, stat based gear, crafting system, and levelling system, all things that hack and slash games usually lack. We know that FFXV is a huge game, much like other RPG's, and I know that FFXV has both a levelling system and stat based gear, because you can see both of those things in this video. I'm not sure if FFXV has a skill tree of some form or a crafting system, but I'd guess that it does.

Typically and always mean two very different things though. Also, Diablo (I, II, and III) are hack and slash games. They have skill trees, stat based gear, leveling system, and crafting system. By your definition Diablo (released in December of 1996), which is known to be a hack and slash game, is not a hack and slash game. This "Action RPG" nonsense came around well after "Hack and Slash" (aka Hack'N'Slash). Stop telling people that it's an Action RPG when that term is pseudo-replacing Hack and Slash.

 

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shikamaru317 said:
IFireflyl said:

Typically and always mean two very different things though. Also, Diablo (I, II, and III) are hack and slash games. They have skill trees, stat based gear, leveling system, and crafting system. By your definition Diablo (released in December of 1996), which is known to be a hack and slash game, is not a hack and slash game. This "Action RPG" nonsense came around well after "Hack and Slash" (aka Hack'N'Slash). Stop telling people that it's an Action RPG when that term is pseudo-replacing Hack and Slash.

Blizzard themselves classified Diablo as an action RPG, not as a hack and slash, as VXIII posted above me. Action RPG's evolved as a hybrid starting in about 1984 with Nihon Falcom's Dragon Slayer, not sure why some gamers still have difficulty recognizing it as it's own genre when it has a 30+ year history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_role-playing_game

BTW, nice username, avatar, and sig, always nice to meet a fellow browncoat. No power in the 'verse can stop us!

It was a great show, and I'm sad it was canceled. On topic, I know Blizzard says it isn't a hack and slash game, but a ton of people agree that it is.

Ranker.com

Gamefaqs thread

Gamespot thread

Wikipedia

I did a quick Google search, and those were the links I found on page one. I'm not saying they're right or wrong. I am saying that if I make a new tetris game and I call it a First Person Shooter that doesn't necessarily make it a First Person Shooter. I personally feel like games can belong to more than one category. So you could call it a Hack and Slash, Action RPG. At least in my book.