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Forums - Sales Discussion - Amazon US December bestsellers thread - updated 01/01/15. AC X1 bundle #1, PS4 #15 & Destiny bundle #90

BraLoD said:
estebxx said:
Cartmanbrah said:
Yep and price was one of the biggest reason why ps4 was on top and this proves it. Now I like how the other side says Xbox sold more because it was cheaper....funny how they now accept the price was the issue.

then explain to me why the PS4 outsold the X1 in all the other months when both the PS4 and X1 had a 400 dollar price...

price is a big factor? yes, undeniably yes... but there is more than just price when deciding a purchase.


Some people just don't understand. The PS4 is still at $399 on amazon and it's rising so quickly, it didn't have any price cut yet. Not even on Black Friday.
When I saw a PS4 price cut it was not Sony's, was a store on ebay and that shit sold like water in the middle of the desert. Was going like 1 PS4/second sold.

Price does have a good weight, and Microsoft can take advantage of it by having a lot more money to spare and a weaker console (so cheaper to build in theory).

It's just obvious, at the same price the PS4 see no competiton, so Microsoft better try to keep it's console cheaper this whole gen.
I'm just waiting to see how much this thing will sell next year with all that big games coming out the whole year, Sony better be making as much PS4's as they can.

They did add 2 games and the Playstation Camera to the $399 price last night.  That is why it bumped.  Now it is still with 2 free games.  Its only natural that it would get a considerable bump once the word got out.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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Well, interesting. PS4 above XBO on hourly.



Teeqoz said:
Well, interesting. PS4 above XBO on hourly.


We should see where it stands monthly when it updates next week.



Formerly ilovegirls69  :(

Again, ps4 proving that at the same value, ps4 is the desire product. Microsoft need to have the xbox one cheaper if it want a chance at winning. Unfortunately, I doubt the ps4 deal would stay much longer.



Dark_Feanor said:

estebxx said:
Cartmanbrah said:
Yep and price was one of the biggest reason why ps4 was on top and this proves it. Now I like how the other side says Xbox sold more because it was cheaper....funny how they now accept the price was the issue.

then explain to me why the PS4 outsold the X1 in all the other months when both the PS4 and X1 had a 400 dollar price...

price is a big factor? yes, undeniably yes... but there is more than just price when deciding a purchase.

edit: sorry kind of missread that, i just noticed you said "one of the biggest reason", not the only reason...

also just went to the Hourly sellers and PS4 is at 9 and X1 at 8, seems like the PS4 have gone up quite a lot if it was at 50 yesterday, but i still have no doubt that the X1 will win this month, just because of that price difference, plus on the holidays theres a LOT of parents buying this things for their kids and that 50 dollar difference is gonna seal the deal.

Momentum and the co-marketing deals for Destiny and a little of Watchdogs.

Somepeople act as the Kinectless SKU had no effect in sales... well, it did and helped bring the price to $350.

You have to go back to June 2013 and read all the complains, not the BS FUD from annonimous "insiders", and you will understand is the biggest reason for the PS4 early lead in the USA.

 

im talking about how the PS4 outsold the X1 after both of them had a price of 400 dollars, and watchdogs was released before that so it has no place in this discussion, and Destiny came out in september (what about july, october,august, june?), so you are telling me that momentum was the only reason why the PS4 outsold the X1 in all the other months from june to october?...  ok i will respect that opinion but i disagree entirely, i think  that being able to get the most powerfull hardware with the better multiplats at the same price is a better reason.

also why didnt the X1 outsold the PS4 in the months that it had Co-marketing deals with COD (which is a bigger franchise that Destiny) and in the month that it had co-marketing deals with Madden?, we all know that co-marketing deals DO indeed help increase sales, so why didnt the X1 outsold the PS4 in those months?, you say its because of momentum but i dont think that momentum can beat something like a co-marketing deal with COD, i would say again that having a better hardware with the better multiplats at the same price is a bigger reason.

and i dont know why you are bringing the kinectless SKU in here... (im not even talking about that) did i said that it didnt increased sales? did i?... it did increased sales, but it wasnt enough to beat the PS4.



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estebxx said:

im talking about how the PS4 outsold the X1 after both of them had a price of 400 dollars, and watchdogs was released before that so it has no place in this discussion, and Destiny came out in september (what about july, october,august, june?), so you are telling me that momentum was the only reason why the PS4 outsold the X1 in all the other months from june to october?...  ok i will respect that opinion but i disagree entirely, i think  that being able to get the most powerfull hardware with the better multiplats at the same price is a better reason.

also i dont know why you are bringing the kinectless SKU in here... (im not even talking about that) did i said that it didnt increased sales? did i?... it did increased sales, but it wasnt enough to beat the PS4.

I don´t understand when people say the "biggest" or "most important" reason for something you assume the guy think that is the "only" reason.

Momentum is a way to say market percepetion. The old tale "I will buy the console my friends are playing on". Beating the PS4 with no big exclusive games untill November would be an incredible feat.

Also, the PS4 all good will, not aways online and stuf, has been fading over the months.The vocal perception that the XOne was a slap in face of gamers and the PS4 was the redimeer was still strong by E3 2014.

Any way, it´s much more complicated than that price could have been the most important reason for the PS4 early lead and know the XOne resurgency. But will it remain in the next year?



Dark_Feanor said:
estebxx said:

im talking about how the PS4 outsold the X1 after both of them had a price of 400 dollars, and watchdogs was released before that so it has no place in this discussion, and Destiny came out in september (what about july, october,august, june?), so you are telling me that momentum was the only reason why the PS4 outsold the X1 in all the other months from june to october?...  ok i will respect that opinion but i disagree entirely, i think  that being able to get the most powerfull hardware with the better multiplats at the same price is a better reason.

also i dont know why you are bringing the kinectless SKU in here... (im not even talking about that) did i said that it didnt increased sales? did i?... it did increased sales, but it wasnt enough to beat the PS4.

I don´t understand when people say the "biggest" or "most important" reason for something you assume the guy think that is the "only" reason.

Momentum is a way to say market percepetion. The old tale "I will buy the console my friends are playing on". Beating the PS4 with no big exclusive games untill November would be an incredible feat.

Also, the PS4 all good will, not aways online and stuf, has been fading over the months.The vocal perception that the XOne was a slap in face of gamers and the PS4 was the redimeer was still strong by E3 2014.

Any way, it´s much more complicated than that price could have been the most important reason for the PS4 early lead and know the XOne resurgency. But will it remain in the next year?

so you are saying that momentum is a bigger reason than being able to get a console with better hardware and the better multiplats at the same price? ok then...



Ps4 passed Xb1 on the hourly, that bundle they have shouldve been available on BF. I'm slightly pissed i got the GTAV bundle now



estebxx said:

so you are saying that momentum is a bigger reason than being able to get a console with better hardware and the better multiplats at the same price? ok then...


What do you mean for "better hardware" and "better multiplats"?

Explain to me as if I were a 45yo lady with two jobs and a 13yo boy to take care.



Dark_Feanor said:
estebxx said:

so you are saying that momentum is a bigger reason than being able to get a console with better hardware and the better multiplats at the same price? ok then...


What do you mean for "better hardware" and "better multiplats"?

Explain to me as if I were a 45yo lady with two jobs and a 13yo boy to take care.

better looking games on the PS4.