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spemanig said:
I'd do this. No shame at all. It's not like Sony will miss the money. I guarantee you only a handful of individuals in the world are doing it in the first place. There only losing out on a few thousand dollars, which is pennies to them.

What about the associates at the store who are screwed out of a bonus because their store didn't meet the shrink reduction and profitability targets only because there are deceitful customers and they can't do anything about it? I'm sure that the few hundred extra dollars they are missing out on per quarter because somebody doesn't want to play fairly in the market and would rather commit what sums up to fraud  (if they intentionally know the ad is fake) isn't pennies to them. 



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sc94597 said:
spemanig said:
I'd do this. No shame at all. It's not like Sony will miss the money. I guarantee you only a handful of individuals in the world are doing it in the first place. There only losing out on a few thousand dollars, which is pennies to them.

What about the associates at the store who are screwed out of a bonus because their store didn't meet the shrink reduction and profitability targets only because there are deceitful customers and they can't do anything about it? I'm sure that the few hundred extra dollars they are missing out on per quarter because somebody doesn't want to play fairly in the market and would rather commit what sums up to fraud  (if they intentionally know the ad is fake) isn't pennies to them. 

That's not my responsibility. That's theirs. they can do something about it. They don't have to Match the price if they are suspicious. I won't feel bad for them. Don't work at Walmart then.



spemanig said:
sc94597 said:
spemanig said:
I'd do this. No shame at all. It's not like Sony will miss the money. I guarantee you only a handful of individuals in the world are doing it in the first place. There only losing out on a few thousand dollars, which is pennies to them.

What about the associates at the store who are screwed out of a bonus because their store didn't meet the shrink reduction and profitability targets only because there are deceitful customers and they can't do anything about it? I'm sure that the few hundred extra dollars they are missing out on per quarter because somebody doesn't want to play fairly in the market and would rather commit what sums up to fraud  (if they intentionally know the ad is fake) isn't pennies to them. 

That's not my responsibility. That's theirs. they can do something about it. They don't have to Match the price if they are suspicious. I won't feel bad for them. Don't work at Walmart then.

Then you ruin it for all the other consumers who want online price-matching. I'm sure you don't feel remorseful, but do understand this isn't a victimless crime. And the victims aren't some CEO's or an abstract entity called a corporation. It's real people who lose out. I personally think people who know an ad is fake and still go to the store trying to use that ad should be sued for fraud. Just as if I went to a store with a product I bought (or even stole) from another store and tried to return it I would be sued for fraud. The burden isn't solely on the seller to make sure the truth is told in a transaction. That isn't how either natural law or the artifical state-based law work. Just so you understand. 



Theft is a major reason why things keep getting more expensive at a far higher rate than income increases can compensate for. Just sayin.



super_etecoon said:
Does Walmart pay for the product in full before they receive it from Sony?

no, afaik these big retailers usually pay 30-60 days after they received a shipment (I think I read Amazon even increased that to 72 days)



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So many people commits crime without bothering. What kind of things common folk would do if they were sure there wouldn't be any bad consequences for him?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Lafiel said:
super_etecoon said:
Does Walmart pay for the product in full before they receive it from Sony?

no, afaik these big retailers usually pay 30-60 days after they received a shipment (I think I read Amazon even increased that to 72 days)

So I'm assuming that Walmart will transfer those "savings" on to Sony...thereby hurting Sony, and not Walmart, in the process.



Not sure what's worse, the scammers scamming them or walmart actually believing it.



fraud.

walmart being a corporation doesn't stop this from being fraud. it doesn't stop it from being morally wrong even if you can get away with it and you are a shallow shitty asshole of a person to you steal no matter the situational details. crime isn't not a crime just because you can get away with it.



super_etecoon said:
Lafiel said:
super_etecoon said:
Does Walmart pay for the product in full before they receive it from Sony?

no, afaik these big retailers usually pay 30-60 days after they received a shipment (I think I read Amazon even increased that to 72 days)

So I'm assuming that Walmart will transfer those "savings" on to Sony...thereby hurting Sony, and not Walmart, in the process.


sony will have a contract for how much is being paid per console.  that won't change just because walmart got scammed.