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PS4 won again in the Global. Will XOne ever win a single week in a year period ?



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dangerguy said:

Wow, huge Xbox One NA numbers. That's insane! Should be a good generation for both consoles.

With PS4's hold in Japan I don't think Xbox One will ever surpass it, but who cares? It's good for consumers to have more than 1 successful console. In 8 years if PS4 has sold 100 million consoles and Xbox One has sold 90 million, who cares? Congrats to PS4 for "winning" the generation, whatever that title gives you.

The gap will be much bigger than 10m though :O



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Could Sony put MS in a difficult situation? MS have 'temporarily' dropped the price of the XB1 but what if Sony continue with these bundles into next year or even drop the price themselves? This would effectively make it almost impossible for MS to sustain any meaningful momentum if they then increase the price back to what it should be.



 

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dangerguy said:

Wow, huge Xbox One NA numbers. That's insane! Should be a good generation for both consoles.

With PS4's hold in Japan I don't think Xbox One will ever surpass it, but who cares? It's good for consumers to have more than 1 successful console. In 8 years if PS4 has sold 100 million consoles and Xbox One has sold 90 million, who cares? Congrats to PS4 for "winning" the generation, whatever that title gives you.

100M to 90M? Lol...

In almost exactly one year we are looking at 13M to 7M. If we extrapolate thats going to end up being 100M to 55M or so. But you are right though, if MS can at least sell over 40M consoles to whatever the PS4 sells they will be very happy. 



jlmurph2 said:
sully1311 said:


How anyone even doubted that is beyond me.


There's people that still doubt it lol

Yeah... kind of odd really.



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Intrinsic said:
dangerguy said:

Wow, huge Xbox One NA numbers. That's insane! Should be a good generation for both consoles.

With PS4's hold in Japan I don't think Xbox One will ever surpass it, but who cares? It's good for consumers to have more than 1 successful console. In 8 years if PS4 has sold 100 million consoles and Xbox One has sold 90 million, who cares? Congrats to PS4 for "winning" the generation, whatever that title gives you.

100M to 90M? Lol...

In almost exactly one year we are looking at 13M to 7M. If we extrapolate thats going to end up being 100M to 55M or so. But you are right though, if MS can at least sell over 40M consoles to whatever the PS4 sells they will be very happy. 


Yeah, we have no idea what the future is going to bring. This is a several year marathon. Ultimately, in a few more years both consoles will probably be priced at $299.99 and have an entirely new library of exclusive offerings.

And let's not forget history. PS3 had a disasterous first year selling only 6 million consoles and look where it ended up. And yes, MS has goals and if PS4 is somehow exceeding their sales expectations, that doesn't all of the sudden make Xbox "meeting" sales expectations a failure.



dangerguy said:


Yeah, we have no idea what the future is going to bring. This is a several year marathon. Ultimately, in a few more years both consoles will probably be priced at $299.99 and have an entirely new library of exclusive offerings.

And let's not forget history. PS3 had a disasterous first year selling only 6 million consoles and look where it ended up. And yes, MS has goals and if PS4 is somehow exceeding their sales expectations, that doesn't all of the sudden make Xbox "meeting" sales expectations a failure.

360 also sold 5-6m in its first year, so yeah. With PS4 vs. XB1 we're already looking at a huge gap in one year which will only grow from here. To manage only a 10m gap in the end XB1 would have to match PS4 on a much more regular basis than 2-3 times per year.



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dangerguy said:

And yes, MS has goals and if PS4 is somehow exceeding their sales expectations, that doesn't all of the sudden make Xbox "meeting" sales expectations a failure.

Somehow I doubt XBox is meeting sales expectations.

Because had it been doing so, I doubt that Microsoft would have:

- Debundled an integral part of the console

- Given away free blockbuster games

- Cut the price less than a year into the lifecycle

- Been forced to reduce production due to excess of stock



dangerguy said:

Yeah, we have no idea what the future is going to bring. This is a several year marathon. Ultimately, in a few more years both consoles will probably be priced at $299.99 and have an entirely new library of exclusive offerings.

And let's not forget history. PS3 had a disasterous first year selling only 6 million consoles and look where it ended up. And yes, MS has goals and if PS4 is somehow exceeding their sales expectations, that doesn't all of the sudden make Xbox "meeting" sales expectations a failure.

Its not that complicated. One of three things can happen. 

  1. Everything stays the same now and the PS4 will end the generation with a 1.8-2.0:1 win ratio over the XB1.
  2. Things get better for the XB1 and gets worse for the PS4 and the generation ends with a 1:1 ratio with both consoles being tied.
  3. Things get better for the PS4 and gets worse for the XB1 and the gen ends with a 3:1 ratio in favour of the PS4.
I was using the most resonable example just keeping things as they are now. And people really need to stop making unrealistic comaparisons to the PS3 when looking at the XB1s current state. And for these reasons.
  1. the Playstation brand was bigger than the xbox brand.
  2. PS3 still had its ass handed to it in NA, but dominated in europe and japan.  PS4 is dominating every territory so far.
  3. XB1 is struggling in NA, losing emphatically in europe and is DOA in japan.
So where exactly are the sales of the XB1 going to come from that would totally offset the PS4s dominace and maybe even outsell the PS4 yearly for the XB1 to make any sort of comeback.


sully1311 said:
chocoloco said:

It is really looking like the X1 will pass the Wii U before the end of the year!!!!!

 


How anyone even doubted that is beyond me.

It is beyond me too. Go back a couple months , or even to mid-summer and all the polls thought the Wii U would be ahead. The huge majority were voting Wii U ahead. Yet, hardly anyone ever posted why they thought this, or if they truly did think that. The whole situation now based on those polls really gives me a good chuckel.