Sigh, this Amazon hourly discussion has become pointless. Everytime PS4 gets ahead people are just going to shout "SCAMS"! I mean are we forgetting the fact that PS4 has outsold the XBO 10 months in a row in the US? Is that hard to believe it could win a couple days? Or even a couple hours?

It was updated already before this, someone just now acknowledged it. Notice there's no up or down arrows on PS4 at #9 after being as low as #13. 

If people want this to stop then might as well stop talking about hourly's in the monthly thread. It seems the weekly and monthly aren't taking the scams into account. We can just talk about those.

Well this was originally a monthly thread but now it's become more of a general Amazon sales topic. I'm fine with that because it cuts down on the number of Amazon threads we keep getting everytime there's a slight change in the rankings. 

I get that.

But honestly if there were no evidence of these reoccuring scams then we wouldn't say anything. 

That remains to be seen i think. The scams didn't reallyt kick in until last week, and we don't have the weekly list for that week, and a few days of scams is not likely to cause much of a change in the monthly. The proof of the pudding will be in the W/E 24 Nov weekly list. If that has PS4 ahead then it's likely to mean they haven't weeded out the scam data. End of the day the predictive value of Amazon (vs NPD) will only be affected if the top console on Amazon when November finishes up is not the top console for NPD in Nov.

What's interesting is how fast the CoD bundle has fallen. After starting the month ahead of PS4 it's now dropped to 36 with PS4 sitting fairly steady at 15.

The week of the 17th is scam week. From 17th to the 23rd. That's why in this list that STARTS on the 27th of October and ends on the 3rd of November: http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014-10-27/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#

It shows those 3 X1 price drop bundles from Nov 2nd in the list while the week after (November 3rd-10th) doesn't even show the Sunset Overdrive bundle in the top 100. Because it sold out on the 3rd. We know that the Xbox One didn't start outselling PS4 until the 31st of October when pre-orders started coming in for the bundles. The 2nd of november is when all 3 finally got ahead of PS4.

The COD bundle has fallen because its been sold out for a while.

lol it won't sell close to the PS4 deal... that is why it is not even a deal... it is the normal Xbone SKU.

If you're not going to use logic then there's no reason to argue with you. 

Xbone ahead again.