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Who wins in the race to 50m shipped?

PS4 217 32.63%
 
Wii 380 57.14%
 
See results. 68 10.23%
 
Total:665

Seeing as how well the PS4 is selling, I can see it happening. I'm not that sure though, even about its lifetime sales, 100 million might be too much to beat



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kowenicki said:

Wii was at 50.4m at 28 months (Nov 2006 to March 2009)

PS4 needs to beat 50.4m by March 2016

 

Who wins in the race to 50m?

Dont be shy, tell me how you vote and why you think the way you voted.

ps4, obviously.

I'll even wager it can be all the seventh-gen consoles combined for the nov 2006 - mar 2009 period.

 

don't be mean to justbeingreal. It's not his fault he doesn't know. You're just playing rope-a-dope with site newbs.



JustBeingReal said:


I already answered this. A 50% increase for a slew of new exclusives, one from one of Sony's biggest franchises of last gen, an overall exclusive line-up that is widely regarded as a massively more impressive than last year's line-up, actual Japan focused releases, huge 3rd party line-up that will be in PS4's favor, the first official price cut and the Chinese release.

Yeah a 50% increase over the next 15 months is the least people should expect compared to the last 15 months.

Explain why you think it isn't happening. Can you?

Hey JBR, keep calm and listen to me.

PS4 over this year has sold 14.5m. That's a good amount, for sure, but to make 50m by march, it will need to at least double in sales. That's not 50%, that's 100% increase...it's actually more.

Please take a look at my thread here:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=195845&page=1#
It should explain a lot of your questions. There is a lot of data, so if you're confused about any of it, please feel free to ask. Keep in mind that my 17.5m is selling during the year by about 200k+ per week. In order to make 50m...it will need 400k per week. Remember that the best a (sony) console has ever done for a full year, was ps2 and that was only 22m, when it was in its third year. The third year will also be ps4's best year, and I believe ps4 will outsell that record, just as ps4 year 2 will outsell ps2 year 2, as did ps4 year 1. But 2015 is not third year. 2016 is.

There weren't even 30m consoles sold this year -combined-



I don't even think production levels are high enough to satisfy the number of consoles it would take to hit this number.



kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
I don't even think production levels are high enough to satisfy the number of consoles it would take to hit this number.


Almost 40% of people who expressed a preference disagree with you....

I dont.

That is because you haven't read my thread about how vgc is currently not tracking digital console sales. Lots of consoles that we don't even know about flying off the psn shelves :D



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kowenicki said:
JustBeingReal said:
kowenicki said:
 

Its 1st 15 months is the slowest sales time a console will have? and  "just a 50% increase"

It isnt happening.


I already answered this. A 50% increase for a slew of new exclusives, one from one of Sony's biggest franchises of last gen, an overall exclusive line-up that is widely regarded as a massively more impressive than last year's line-up, actual Japan focused releases, huge 3rd party line-up that will be in PS4's favor, the first official price cut and the Chinese release.

Yeah a 50% increase over the next 15 months is the least people should expect compared to the last 15 months.

Explain why you think it isn't happening. Can you?

Common sense.

50% is the LEAST people should expect?

So the LEAST they should expect is 32m in the next 15 months.  I think we should leave it there and check back in March 2016.

51m shipped by March 2016 you say. 


Where's this supposed common sense exactly? What is it based on? Explain the details that make such a demand increase unlikely or as impossible as you claim?

So far you haven't provided any actually logical reasoning to go along with your claims. It's one thing to have an opinion, but you haven't given any actual details that support this line of thinking.

 

I have for mine, demand will be much higher with so many games launching, I'll add that there isn't any real competition, because Wii U doens't command the 3rd party audience towards it, it's a very different audience entirely. XB1 basically has nothing in the way of exclusives coming for at least a few months assuming that Fable Legends launches in the first half of this year, besides that and so far MS hasn't announced anything to take the focus off of PS4 and draw focus to gain new audience sales for the 3rd party market.

Basically Sony has the lion's share of new year customers that will have more games to buy on PS4, the system's overall library will be huge before XB1 has anything to gain some attention back.

 

The sheer amount of exclusives coming and quality behind them is huge compared to last year, the same goes for 3rd party and when you couple that with the competition not really competing (I mean Wii U has great exclusives, but it's not the same market as Sony's going for), a market that hasn't been tapped for years, price cut to open up accessibility for people that couldn't afford the console before or people that were simply waiting for PS4 to dropm down in price a bit more it all couples together to vastly increase the appeal of the system for people that haven't bought into the 8th gen yet.

 

So if demand is there, lack of competition, supply isn't an issue, what is there that can prevent this happening?

Yes I say 51M shipped by March next year, I honestly don't think it's a ridiculous notion.



Congrats to the ps4 for the good first year. There are a few things in it's 2nd year that the Wii had going for it.

- The 2nd year of the wii it still had supply problems.
~I could get a Ps4 at any retailer right now

- The Wii was just hitting its Ellen/Oprah crowd.
~The ps4 at best is going after the Jimmy Fallon crowd.

I still think the Ps4 will do fine, but it will be far shy of 50 mil at that time. I honestly don't think it will even break 80 mil Lifetime.



theprof00 said:
JustBeingReal said:


I already answered this. A 50% increase for a slew of new exclusives, one from one of Sony's biggest franchises of last gen, an overall exclusive line-up that is widely regarded as a massively more impressive than last year's line-up, actual Japan focused releases, huge 3rd party line-up that will be in PS4's favor, the first official price cut and the Chinese release.

Yeah a 50% increase over the next 15 months is the least people should expect compared to the last 15 months.

Explain why you think it isn't happening. Can you?

Hey JBR, keep calm and listen to me.

PS4 over this year has sold 14.5m. That's a good amount, for sure, but to make 50m by march, it will need to at least double in sales. That's not 50%, that's 100% increase...it's actually more.

Please take a look at my thread here:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=195845&page=1#
It should explain a lot of your questions. There is a lot of data, so if you're confused about any of it, please feel free to ask. Keep in mind that my 17.5m is selling during the year by about 200k+ per week. In order to make 50m...it will need 400k per week. Remember that the best a (sony) console has ever done for a full year, was ps2 and that was only 22m, when it was in its third year. The third year will also be ps4's best year, and I believe ps4 will outsell that record, just as ps4 year 2 will outsell ps2 year 2, as did ps4 year 1. But 2015 is not third year. 2016 is.



You realise I'm going by shipments from the last 15 months right?

If it shipped 20 million, then 50% growth would be another 20 million, plus 10 million, so 30 million shipped from the beginning of this year to March 2016.

100% would mean Sony would ship 40 million units over 15 months, because that would be the same level of sales as the previous period, plus the growth, which at 100% that doubles the previous years record.

 

That's what I mean by growth anyway.

The questions are for the OP, he/she just keeps saying that they don't agree, which is fair enough, but there's a distinct lack of explanation as to why they don't agree. Saying it's common sense to think their way, without actually providing any reasoning behind that isn't a logical answer, it's no answer to the question IMO.

 

If I end up being wrong then I'm wrong, but at least I'm support my opinion with reasons as to why I feel this is what will happen in 15 months time.

I think Sony will have the demand, because they have the software, because the price will drop, because there's a new market they're launching in, because they have little in the way of competition, because they can fill that demand in all areas.

The system's sold incredibly well with very little to support it and the support is becoming vastly superior over the next 15 months, so logically sales will massively increase.



Probably wont happen.



PS4. You want to know why Kowen? Cause I'm a god damn blind PS4 fanboy.

ARE YOU HAPPY KOWEN LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO ME!!!