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sully1311 said:
Kane1389 said:
sully1311 said:

X1 beat the PS4 for one week in UK by 5k after a price cut, jeezzzz.

US and UK will be close but WW, no.


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Where you getting 5k from.


GAF thread



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Kane1389 said:




GAF thread


Been following it, haven't seen anything about 5k.



toastboy44562 said:

Facts:

-Xbox One is beating the PS4 in the UK right now forcing Sony to cut the price of their console.

-Xbox One had a successful launch in China and looking to have 100k+ opening week.

-Xbox One will have more than 15K opening week in Russia

-Forza horizons is a great game!

 

Speculation:

-Sony had their biggest game come out already (Destiny even though its on Xbox One), while Microsoft still has Forza, Sunset Overdrive bundle, Call of Duty Bundle, Assassins creed unity marketing, and Halo!

-The gap in the USA isn't that big and still can go either way.

-Despite the PS4 bundle the Xbox One is still close to PS4 in USA

-Xbox One could pull ahead of PS4 if Microsoft cuts the price of Xbox One by 50 dollars

-Microsoft now owns minecraft so maybe the only physical release will be on Xbox One

-Microsoft Advertises better

Kinect will boost sales (even if it may be small)

 

You heard it here first homies, Xbox One will pull similar numbers to PS4 this holiday! I think the ratio PS4 to Xbox One will be 1.2:1

 

None of that is fact, let's have a look:

I haven't seen anything in the way of proof that XB1 is beatin PS4 in the UK.

China doesn't represent long term sales, the baseline will be much smaller.

As with China, Russia's sales were at best a small bump or addition compared to the grand scheme of things, they don't represent that addition to weekly XB1 sales figures.

 

Forza Horizon didn't clear 2 million units of software sold on 360 and FH2 is available on both platforms.

Driveclub was a hotly anticipated launch title on PS4, many people canceled their pre-order and were willing to wait until the game comes out to buy their PS4.

 

As for your speculation:

 

You're assuming that Destiny is Sony's biggest game of the year, when it could easily be COD or Driveclub.

Pretty much every multiplat has been selling better on PS4, because people want the best experience on consoles and the majority of people are buying a PS4, causing a knock on effect or more PS4's selling because people want to play online with their friends.

The US is one area, it may be close in that region, but Japan and Europe will be Sony's domain.

PS4 has it's bundles, like TLOU, Driveclub, Destiny can still gain Xmas sales, Sony could have the biggest bundle of the year if they do one for GTA V.

Sony can do a price cut too.

Minecraft already has a retail release on PS4.

Sony has been advertising just as much and will likely lay it on massively this Xmas, especially with PS4 having more games releasing throughout 2015, Sony can also play the card of having the better running 3rd party games.

Kinect did nothing but have a negative effect on Xbox One when the system was launched, it's doubtful it will have a great effect this holiday, especially with little in the way of any Kinect software to push with it.



toastboy44562 said:

Facts:

-Xbox One is beating the PS4 in the UK right now forcing Sony to cut the price of their console.


I thought Xbox One was the one forced to lower the price, and isn't the PS4 price lowered only on Amazon UK?.



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prinz_valium said:
us, uk and australia, yes
brazil and china xbox one will be ahead

rest of the world: no


It won't even outsell PS4 in the UK or USA>.....why would that happen all of a sudden??? The gap won't get smaller anywhere.



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MindControlMaster said:
prinz_valium said:
us, uk and australia, yes
brazil and china xbox one will be ahead

rest of the world: no


It won't even outsell PS4 in the UK or USA>.....why would that happen all of a sudden??? The gap won't get smaller anywhere.


te is talking about come close. not outselling

 

but even outselling is possible in the us

1.2:1 is the sales ratio right now



Depends on if MS is willing to open their wallet.

If they drop to $349.99 and bundle in Master Chief Collection for the holidays for free ... yes, I think things get considerably more competitive in North America anyway.



The closest thing XOne will get to Ps4 is a 2:1 WW. That is if all of it's exclusives do great. Other than that, i won't be surprised to see Ps4 beating XOne by a ratio of 4:1.



Unlikely to realistically ever happen this year.

Its all about demand. Demand is not easy to build neither is it easy to lose, PS4 has it and it will show and has been showing all this time. X1 lacks an ability to build demand in all world markets except 2 UK and US.

Its unlikely to remotely come close to a product that had 4-1 demand in most markets, even holidays craze do not change such disparity in demand.



I think that the XB1 will be outsold at a 1.3-1.4 to 1 ration from November 1st 2014 through Jan 5th 2015 WORLDWIDE. After that, it will probably go the other way again....



It is near the end of the end....