3DS has a mature library and shouldn't need huge games every month and this point of its lifecycle. 

It has NSMB2, Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing, Pokemon X/Y, Nintendogs + cats, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus Uprising, Luigi's Mansion 2, Zelda: OoT 3D, Zelda: Link Between Worlds, Mario & Luigi, Pilotwings, Paper Mario, Mario Tennis, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario Party, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Kingdom Hearts, Super Street Fighter IV, Tekken, Ridge Racer, Bravely Default, Resident Evil, Shin Megami Tensei, Sonic, Metal Gear Solid 3, LEGO City, Angry Birds, LEGO various, etc. etc. already. 

For people who say the DS had big games every month ... wrong. Nintendo's notable 2008 DS output:

Advance Wars: Days of Ruin

Kirby Super Star Ultra

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

Pokemon Ranger

Crosswords DS

And not much else. 3DS' Nintendo output at this stage of the game is fairly typical for what previous Nintendo platforms have had after their third holiday season. 

"If this YOY trends continue..." Key phrase here. Nintendo's ability to self sabotage has also increased with 69 % lately.

I would love to be wrong though, but i'm not hopefull at all.

Okay, I corrected my math earlier in this thread now and I predict, if Wii U continues to be up YOY 69% from 2013 then it should hit around 10,825,076.29.

^^^ Nvm, people saw my post already.

Anyway, I don't think I have the resources to predict 2015 and 2016 sales.... Maybe I can compare them to GameCube's 2004 and 2005 sales, but thats too much work lol

Soundwave said: WhiteEaglePL said: Just wait until the holiday season.... For what ... exactly? The 3DS had Pokemon X/Y, 2DS, and Zelda: Link Between Worlds last holiday versus basically just Smash Bros. this year and it still had a relatively poor holiday last year.  I believe actually the 3DS has been in decline each successive holiday season in North America.  This points to me that the successive impact of smartphones/tablets year after year are taking a harsher toll on Nintendo even when they release more and more games.

You clearly forgotten about Pokemom ORAS.

However you seem to be understimating a lot of things too. Japan this holiday has more than 20 3ds and Wii U games.

Globbaly, they should be fine and depending on the advertsing and amiibo effect, wii U sales CAN reach 10mil global and 3DS will get mega boosts in EU/US from Pokemon. Plus japan with Monster Hunter, Bravely Second and More poke/smash.

WhiteEaglePL said: Soundwave said: WhiteEaglePL said: Just wait until the holiday season.... For what ... exactly? The 3DS had Pokemon X/Y, 2DS, and Zelda: Link Between Worlds last holiday versus basically just Smash Bros. this year and it still had a relatively poor holiday last year.  I believe actually the 3DS has been in decline each successive holiday season in North America.  This points to me that the successive impact of smartphones/tablets year after year are taking a harsher toll on Nintendo even when they release more and more games.  You clearly forgotten about Pokemom ORAS.   However you seem to be understimating a lot of things too. Japan this holiday has more than 20 3ds and Wii U games. Globbaly, they should be fine and depending on the advertsing and amiibo effect, wii U sales CAN reach 10mil global and 3DS will get mega boosts in EU/US from Pokemon. Plus japan with Monster Hunter, Bravely Second and More poke/smash.

I don't see Pokemon giving a big boost, most of the Pokemon fanbase should be on the 3DS by now after X/Y. Even with X/Y last year Nintendo still failed to meet their holiday sales expectations with Iwata specificly saying it was the worst holiday they've had in North America under his watch. 

They'll have a solid holiday in Japan, but that isn't really what this thread is about. 

Wii U is pretty much a disaster, I don't really see what the significance of hitting 10 million global is when its at a slower rate than any other Nintendo console (by a good margin at that). It's like getting a ribbon for finishing in 5th place. 

Given up on console gaming? No. possibly given up on marketing the Wii U, but it still has an impressive exclusive lineup for next year. They even have plans for their next console already. Their console might be failing, but they have by no means given up on their home console business.

I think this kinda hammers it home too, looking at corresponding sales periods

NPD US Sales Comparision:

Jan-Aug 2014 (Wii U + 3DS combined)

= 1.55 million combined hardware

Jan-August 2003 (GBA + GCN combined)

= 4.7 million combined hardware

So basically the narrative that this gen is basically the GBA + GCN is fairly false. Wii U + 3DS are selling nowhere close to the GCN + GBA in North America.

by this point everybody knows 3DS is no DS in terms of sales/popularity so it does in fact still need new big releases in order to maintain momentum.

it doesnt necessarily need a big game every month but it hasnt recieved anything major since Tomodachi Life in early June and doesnt have anything major until Smash Bros in early October, thats 4 months.

Reason for the low sales of 3DS is simple, it is INCREDIBLY underpowered for a device in 2014, especially with all these ultra powerful phones coming out.

A system comparable to PS2 in terms of power and with such a low resolution screen and expensive games for a portable device in 2014 is bound to be niche, and it probably has sold to 80% of all the people that wanted one. The only reason its still surviving is because of its library.

All platforms have similar periods, the DS and GBA sure as heck did. 

A handheld platform in general doesn't tend to need major releases evey 1-2 months anyway, that's more of a console thing. 

Even then in the 8 months this year, Nintendo's published 6 3DS titles in North America -- Tomodachi Life (which has shown to have good legs), Yoshi's New Island, Kirby Triple Deluxe, Mario Golf, Professor Layton x Ace Attorney, and a Disney game on top of several eShop titles (Kirby Fighters, Steel Diver Sub Wars, Rusty's Baseball Challenge). Tomodachi Life has only been out for 3 months in the relevant NPD figures and seems to have good legs too. 

So it's not like they've published nothing this year. It's a fairly standard release schedule given the point of the 3DS' lifecycle, Nintendo has already released most of their major IP on the system. 

If you have to work so hard to maintain even an ok sales baseline so late in the lifecycle it indicates something is wrong with the platform. It would be like being married for three years but still having to buy your wife an expensive gift every month to keep her from losing interest in you ... if you haven't "hooked" her by then, it suggests something is fairly wrong in the relationship.