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awesomeabe1998 said:
EpicRandy said:
"Back in the day, on 1up.com, I kept telling all the 360 gamers that they are on the wrong side. I told them about how MS is corrupt and that they are buying RROD junk machines. I felt like they were disloyal after 2 generations of fun that Playstation provided for them. They wouldn't listen to me and they blasted me left and right. They seemed blindly loyal, and my words seemed to have little effect. So why the change?"

Here you have your answer. They were not fans of the Xbox, you have painted as fans of the Xbox. these were only people who have seen better value in the 360 even with the RROD.

btw the contradiction is strong here " I felt like they were disloyal after" ... "They seemed blindly loyal"

1)So you are saying that they werent fanboys buy just prefer playing on Xbox?

2)Oh and at your December 20 2014 prediction: I think the Wii U will sell more than the XB1 because of Europe. As of late the Wii U has been selling way better than the XB1 in EU due to MK8. I think Smash will alsi help boost it. The only guarantee is that XB1 will sell better in NA. I kniw this is off topic but it had to be said hahaha.

1) Generally speaking yes. 

2) you can post that here http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=187040&page=1 



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prayformojo said:
gamemaster4747 said:

Before reading, know this is not a troll article. I am not putting down Xbox One owners, even though I do not like Xbox myself.

I am surprised that Xbox One is doing so poorly after the price cut, improved Xbox Gold--and not needing it for Netflix, etc.--special Gamestop deals, and all the Phil Spencer works. Man have things changed! Xbox was the popular American system. Even the Wii U--supposedly on death row--is beating Xbox One now. I can say I am pleased, but surprised as well. It has been my dream for years for Playstation to beat Xbox in America again. I remained loyal to the Playstation brand through it's worst times. Where is the loyalty of the 360 fans?

Back in the day, on 1up.com, I kept telling all the 360 gamers that they are on the wrong side. I told them about how MS is corrupt and that they are buying RROD junk machines. I felt like they were disloyal after 2 generations of fun that Playstation provided for them. They wouldn't listen to me and they blasted me left and right. They seemed blindly loyal, and my words seemed to have little effect. So why the change?

I only have theories. The DRM/always online disaster of E3 2013? Forced Kinect inclusion? Dropping Kinect after vowing that Kinect would stay with every Xbox One? Misleading advertizing? A combination of things? I am not sure. It just seems like many people woke up and saw what I saw for a change.

Let me know in the comments why you think the Xbox brand is failing right now even after all the improved changes MS has made. I don't have much time for responses, but I will read your comments. If I have the time, I will respond. Thanks.


The majority of 360 "fans" were just mainstream gamers who buy whichever console is "popular." That console right now is PS4, so most migrated there. 

Of course not.

Microsoft did some things right with the original Xbox mostly Halo and online.

Then they improved with the 360 with it's comfortable controller, better online play, Gears of War, Forza and more Halo. Xbox Live was greedy imo but i guess that and RROD never seemed to bother 360 fanboys since they would just buy another Xbox and pay to play online.

Microsoft screwed up after it's DRM and always Kinect policies. Imagine if Sony came up with those policies you still think PS4 would be selling twice as much as Xbone?



ExplodingBlock said:
If it doesn't sell more then 30m I think it might be the last Xbox but knowing Microsoft it probably won't
I also think PSV will be the last Sony handheld

If Sony find a way to make 3rd party love suporting their handheld the next one would sell very well.

I think having just one fail is not enough reason to abandon an industry imagine if Nintendo stop making console after the Gamecube



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

As well as the obvious reasons why the XBone is struggling I think the 360 had a very poor last couple of years compared to the PS3 and this turned a few XBox fans over to Sony. As soon as the new console went into the latter stages of development little attention was paid to the then current one.



PS4 is getting all the attention for third parties, and it's exclusives are better.

Wii U is a far better system to buy alongside PS4. Few people would buy a PS4 and an X1

 

As a 360 owner, I'm completely uninterested in the X1. I do want  a PS4, though. I imagine a lot of people can relate to this.



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Ultimately, games sell hardware. I honestly feel Mario Kart 8 is bigger than a pricecut. If I were a Wii U fan (well actually I am) I wouldn't (won't) talk big until Microsoft releases some of its bigger titles. Actually, I won't talk big at all until Nintendo is doing far better.



LudicrousSpeed said:
lol @ being loyal to any of these companies. There is no right or "wrong" side.


Its when you know this guy is wayyyyyyyy to serious with that shit. Nothing good can come from that mindset. No objectivity. Waste of time



homer said:
spemanig said:
It's become cool to hate now. There's nothing objectively wrong with the XBO as it is now. It's a little weaker and probably has less exclusive. PS4 seems obviously better, but the XBO isn't a major step worse like people make it out to be.

Maybe it's signaling the end of american-style games in the same way Japanese gaming declined. COD is starting to go down in sales after all.

Or not. Meh.


If Western games are on their way out, what is there to replace them? Japanese games again? Somehow I doubt that.


Who said western games? I said american games.



iceland said:

Being loyal to a company?


being loyal to a company will screw you over in the end that's what i always say



"Wii U beating Xbox One even after price drop! What happened to the 360 fans?"
They bought PS4's, Xbox One's or are still playing 360 until more games come out for the xbox one.

Conversely, what happened to Nintendo fans for the first year of the consoles life?, same thing.