Well, yes, Ukraine might have closed airspace but up to certain altitude. 10km is usually a safe distance, but not for a Buk-M1, it has a ceiling of 22km for a target as small as F-15. But 9 chances out of 10 it's an intended hit, not an accident (if it was indeed shot, and shot from the ground).

Impact site: http://lifenews.ru/news/136811 (slightly NSFW, dead bodies lying around).

Well, +295 to the deathtoll of this war it is. It's already on a few thousands mark, both sides, combatants and non-combatants.

Yes, I guess no one knew they had those missile systems. Airlines are only know saying they will not go through that airspace anymore. 

Shit hit the fan, Kiev blames rebels and... Russia (who would have thought?). Russia and rebels blames no one for now, but rebels claimed that Buk they have captured is still non-operational.

BTW the topic on Boing has been raised on this forum, it's just usual forum BS for now. But Igor Ivanovich (the official commander-in-chief of the Donetsk and Lugansk armed forces) has visited it rather often in last few days, might share few thoughts eventually on the incident. Nickname "Котыч".

tbh no matter who shot the plane its russias fault for creating this chaos in the ukraine.

it it was not shot at all then its obviously also russians fault (jk)

i thought civilian airlines is considered hands off in conflict areas. regardless, this isn't good at all. I just hope this doesn't cause a world war.

It's far from the first airline shooting incident. The US itself did the same on 1988. My first guess is that the Ukrainian separatists thought another Ukrainian army jet was flying over Donetsk and fired one of those Buk missiles and it actually managed to hit the target without extra guidance on sheer bad luck...

As I've said it's technically impossible without radar tracking, even if said Buk was operational, and even if operator is stupid enough to confuse Boing with smth closely resembling military jet like Il-76.

BTW Iranian jet in 1988 was shot on purpose, it just was mis-identified. The last known incident of a truly accident shot of passenger flight from the ground was Tu-154 Tel-Aviv-Novosibirsk flight over the Black Sea by... Ukarinian forces in 2001, shot by S-200. It was the result of multiple f*cku-ps in a row like missile being activated for whatever reason (it was training launch, it shouldn't been activated) and Tu-154 being exteremly "lucky" to be there in a specific time and place when missile got him on the distance far outreaching its official hit distance.

Obama's speech (at least the small part I saw) was so confusing. I understand that he talks so "full of energy" when he has a campaign but when you talk about an accident with 300 dead people you don't have to have a speech which sounds as if you are a disc jockey on party who is shouting in his mic to thank all those guys who are with him...

Can he even talk normal or did he forget how that works?

Further accusations, this time against Kiev.

Spanish air traffic controller from Borispol blames it on Kiev (in Spanish, could be fake, no confirmation), google-translated:

En los radares esta todo recogido, para los incrédulos, derribado por kiev, aquí lo sabemos y control aéreo militar también
In radar this all collected, for unbelievers, brought down by kiev, here we know and military air traffic control also

Militares confirman que fue ukraine, pero se sigue sin saber de donde vino la orden
Military ukraine confirm that he was, but still does not know where the order came

Los cazas volaron cerca del 777, hasta 3 minutos antes de desaparecer de los radares, solo 3 minutos.
The fighters flew about 777, up to 3 minutes before disappearing from the radar, just 3 minutes.

Rebels blame it on Kiev, suggest Su-25 shot it down (well, this is either confusion or deliberate lie, not goona even to explain why Su-25 couldn't do it).