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Meh.. I hate it when students blame the institution for "lack of education".. Don't you guys realize that a lot of people in your class are dumber then you? Those who actually need to hear all the boring stuff? So your smarter then your classmates.. Go do something with it.. College is what you make of it.. If you expect to teacher are gonna tell you how the world works you're doing it wrong.. Find out for yourself.. They have the responsibilty to an entire group not just you.. What you may find useless, 60% of the others might found it usefull.. Read stuff for yourself, try your own project.. Think, adept and become better..



 

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lol yeah....

My useless degrees really stunted my career. Man I should have just winged it like a few peeps I know who make 1/2 of what I do with no real job security.

You guys are way to narrow minded.

Those certs are useless. A degree not only teaches you many great well-rounded sets of info (so long as your smart enough to understand what classes you're picking) as well as demonstrates you can work on long-scale multi-person projects.

You get out of a diploma what you put into it. In hindsight I would not have gotten my MBA solely because I've decided I don't want to walk down that path. But, my BS in CS was a gold mine and has payed for itself many times over. Had I wanted to go further in the executive chain, my MBA would be more than worth it as well.

College may not be for everyone. Some .. very few can be very successful without any upper education. It seems far smarter to me to gain that knowledge and experience to dramatically increase your capability to be successful in something you enjoy than to jump head first into the shallow end of the pool. But good luck to ya!



superchunk said:
lol yeah....

My useless degrees really stunted my career. Man I should have just winged it like a few peeps I know who make 1/2 of what I do with no real job security.

You guys are way to narrow minded.

Those certs are useless. A degree not only teaches you many great well-rounded sets of info (so long as your smart enough to understand what classes you're picking) as well as demonstrates you can work on long-scale multi-person projects.

You get out of a diploma what you put into it. In hindsight I would not have gotten my MBA solely because I've decided I don't want to walk down that path. But, my BS in CS was a gold mine and has payed for itself many times over. Had I wanted to go further in the executive chain, my MBA would be more than worth it as well.

College may not be for everyone. Some .. very few can be very successful without any upper education. It seems far smarter to me to gain that knowledge and experience to dramatically increase your capability to be successful in something you enjoy than to jump head first into the shallow end of the pool. But good luck to ya!

I don't think anyone's suggesting that you shouldn't go to college, just that the college experience could be better tailored to student's needs, especially given the high cost of attendance.

The letter in the OP, meanwhile, almost feels like a commentary on how colleges have the balls to ask you for money almost as soon as you graduate, as if you're not spending the next ten years essentially still giving them money (not really, but you get the idea). He says what we're all thinking in that regard.



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I agree, and if I could do it over again I wouldn't even waste my time. I'd get a certificate and then get a job, and in that 3 or 4 years that would of been spent at college I would already have  job experience in my field of choice.

Edit: I'm not saying don't go to college or that it's useless, just for me personally and my career interests it's just a waste of time.



McDonaldsGuy said:
Jay520 said:
It doesn't take much pre-college research to learn what majors don't actually teach practical, tangible, and in-demand job skills.


The problem is college isn't a very good learning environment either. When the curve to get an A is 70% how can you say the people learned? I had a class where if you had 45% you passed. The people who do good in those classes are the same type of people who will do good anyway.



uh...that's not a universal grading scale, so not sure whu you brought that up. Further, who are you to say that 70% is worse than any other arbitrarily chosen benchmark for an A?

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McDonaldsGuy said:

http://www.tickld.com/x/angry-graduate-just-wrote-this-letter-to-his-u niversity-its-hard-not-to-agree-

Seriously everything I have learned in college I could have learned online for free. I thought universities would be about learning new skills and APPLYING them, instead it's a waste of time unless you're a science major (I am a math major). Instead it's watching some old guy who can barely speak English go over Powerpoint slides, and I go to a very good university too (UCSB).

Seriously it would be much better to either make college a lot cheaper (can't though - thanks federal government) or make it more practical. For example, if you're a biology major, you focus on biology, rather than all that other BS they want you to learn (to make money). College should get you prepared but it doesn't.


the link is dead? what he say?



The first year and a half of my college experience was mostly pointless with a few exceptions. After that though, my classes became relevant to real world skills, but that's probably because I was going for a software engineering degree. I think the majority of degrees are cluttered with unnecessary classes, but there are a few areas of study where college is a necessity.



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