Not sure why you'd use crime to crituqe an economic system.

In Detroit the Median income is ~$25,000.

In Greece it's ~$15,000.

*They're

Not today's Democrats. In most other democracies 75% of the Democrats in congress, and Obama himself would be considered right-of-centre.

That people think mandated health insurance is socialism running roughshod on 'Murican freedoms shows how far right the USA as a nation has gone.

well the most people care more about not beeing shot for chickenwings than about 10.000$ more a year...

and u dont think the total breakdown in detroit has something to do with the economic system?  or are poor people from greece just nicer than poor americans?

Not really no.

I mean, have you compaired the US response to the GFC compaired to the Europeon one?

If your talking more then just economically, I can list about a dozen ways the UK, Germany or France for example are socially conservative compaired to the US mainstream.  Espiecally with the rise of "Blue Labour" who brilliantly think the reason they lost the elections is because they don't hate immigrants enough.

Ever look at Europeon Abortion laws?  When it comes to just ease of access and amount of time to get it done... the US is pretty hard to beat.  Heavy restrictions usually coming down in the 1st trimester in most cases... often with hoops to jump through.  US, you just make an apointment.

But the parameters seem to be economic so it's better to start there.

Nicer?  No.  Less Violent.  Yes.

Detroit doesn't have NEARLY the food security problems Greece does.

Culture is a factor in crime afterall.

Also... total Breakdown in detroit?   That's pretty hyperbolic.

It peaked in 2012, and is headed downwards again, 47% in 2007, even though they've made more police cutbacks and the economy is worse there.

Probably never.. too much paranoia and misconceptions about what it actually is.

dude those numbers are realy realy terrible... i life the biggest state of germany, 17-18million inhabitants and something around 100 Murder

thats way less than  half the murders of detroid, a town with 600.000 inhabitants...

Thank you professor. 

Well first off... that's murder rate.  Not actual murder numbers.  

Secondly, murder rates for major cities are going to be higher then murder rates for states.   The Equivlent to your German State is actually included on that graph.  It would be that Red line listed Michigan.   Which is the State that Detroit is in.

Thirdly, the numbers are terrible... but consistantly terrible.

In otherwords, there hasn't been a "Total breakdown" in Detroit due to the tanking economy.

Rubbish. What a self rightgeous view of yourself and this is evident in shaping your views.

"(Notice how none of that carries any relevance to economic theories?)"

Ofcourse it does, and is at the heart of Game Theory which has shaped modern economics.

If you have a system that doesn't account for lazy people even if only some of them are and it then doesn't take steps to stop them being lazy then they're able to "game the system" and get other people to pay for what they want/need: children, healthcare, living expenses etc.

I agree with you that capitalism doesn't take steps to prevent greed by the most capable but the above must be recognised equally rather than simply glossing over with some rubbish that people who think like this are probably just lazy and selfish themselves.

Personally I'm a right-wing leaning liberal democrat, essentially the government we have in the UK at the moment (I actually got exactly what I wanted) because I think that form of government gives a good balance between the two. Socialism however in it's purest form, like communism simply doesn't work. Capitalism equally eventually fails like we've seen although I also want to point out that pure Capitalism hasn't been tried, in a Capitalist society banks wouldn't have been bailed out or would even have needed to be as it wouldn't use a fiat currency which essentially lead to all the debt. However I'm under no doubt that pure Capitalism would eventually lead to monopolies or cabals that would ultimately have absolute power over the citizens and a reduction in growth and an increase in social inequality.