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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 07 April 2014
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:

Yea, I've read that a Bios update was only for a CPU though I figured it might be feasible.

And yes the 7750 works fine.

i uninstalled the 7750's drivers before I installed the 750, Would it make any difference if I reinstalled the 7750's drivers and than took out the 7750 and put in the 750? 

Not really, what OS are you running?

Also, just to be clear, you can't get passed the Bios with a 750 right? Like it just shows the logo and then it just doesnt work?

Windows 7

And yeah with 750 I get the bios options and the gateway logo and after a minute or so a blank screen with an underscore in the top left just pulsing.

Very interesting... So what I am thinking might be happening is:

a) Its trying to boot from the internal video card and you have to force it to boot from the pci-e through bios settings
b) The res might be too high for it without drivers so maybe put the 7750 back in and lower the res to as low as possible and then try the 750
c) It doesn't detect the HDMI without proper Drivers so you may need to use DVi first, boot, install drivers and then use HDMI

See if any of those work



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

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Cj2i3 on 07 April 2014
ganoncrotch said:
Cj2i3 said:
ganoncrotch said:
Cj2i3 said:
ganoncrotch said:
Jesus I wouldn't stick any sort of graphics card in a PC with a 300watt power supply, you know that would be the things peak rating? like if it's 1 or 2 years old it's probably outputting somewhere far closer to 175-200watts now? you're really risking a major shortage and fire trying to do what you're doing there. If you are hell bent on trying to run it with that PSU definitely make sure all the USB hubs are empty of anything you can do without for the time being, even those could push that over the limit .

Running low powered cards on a low powered PSU shouldn't be an issue


It's not just the card tho which takes psu wattage, every harddrive, dvd drive... usb mouse/keyboard will eat through the amount of power that 300watt thing would be outputting by now, like I said it might be rated at 300watts but that is the optimum like absolute max that any of that make of psu could produce on day 1 out of the box, average you'll get from it will be a fair deal less than 300 and then less again if it's a year or 2 old.

A bios update isn't going to make you have more power simple as that, if you want to try you can disconnect stuff you don't need like I said already tho, take out the power cables from your dvd drive and any thing basically which isn't needed for the PC to start up with the graphics card attached. go from there.

Yea I know I understand, I feel I'm a good amount under 300 Watts and as I said I've been using the 7750 so I don't know if 5 watts would be the difference here. But I see your point and I appreciate your insight. I'm just hoping it isn't the PSU, which is very well could be.


if it would be coming down to a couple of watts disconnecting an internal dvd/cd drive would be enough to get it back into a bootable state, could the card just be dodgy? was it new or tested in another machine first?

I bought it new, I'm not sure if it was tested. It's definitely possible it could be buggy, 



Cj2i3 on 07 April 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:

Yea, I've read that a Bios update was only for a CPU though I figured it might be feasible.

And yes the 7750 works fine.

i uninstalled the 7750's drivers before I installed the 750, Would it make any difference if I reinstalled the 7750's drivers and than took out the 7750 and put in the 750? 

Not really, what OS are you running?

Also, just to be clear, you can't get passed the Bios with a 750 right? Like it just shows the logo and then it just doesnt work?

Windows 7

And yeah with 750 I get the bios options and the gateway logo and after a minute or so a blank screen with an underscore in the top left just pulsing.

Very interesting... So what I am thinking might be happening is:

a) Its trying to boot from the internal video card and you have to force it to boot from the pci-e through bios settings
b) The res might be too high for it without drivers so maybe put the 7750 back in and lower the res to as low as possible and then try the 750
c) It doesn't detect the HDMI without proper Drivers so you may need to use DVi first, boot, install drivers and then use HDMI

See if any of those work

Alright I'm gonna try all of these, I have a question on A. though. I feel that might be the issue and but I'm not sure how to default it to pcie through the bios settings? I used this site to try and walk me through it: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/enable-pci-express-card-slot-36591.html but I couldn't find or don't have a video configuration option.

 

I tried C I used a Dvi and it gave me the same thing.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 07 April 2014
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:

Windows 7

And yeah with 750 I get the bios options and the gateway logo and after a minute or so a blank screen with an underscore in the top left just pulsing.

Very interesting... So what I am thinking might be happening is:

a) Its trying to boot from the internal video card and you have to force it to boot from the pci-e through bios settings
b) The res might be too high for it without drivers so maybe put the 7750 back in and lower the res to as low as possible and then try the 750
c) It doesn't detect the HDMI without proper Drivers so you may need to use DVi first, boot, install drivers and then use HDMI

See if any of those work

Alright I'm gonna try all of these, I have a question on A. though. I feel that might be the issue and but I'm not sure how to default it to pcie through the bios settings? I used this site to try and walk me through it: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/enable-pci-express-card-slot-36591.html but I couldn't find or don't have a video configuration option.

 

I tried C I used a Dvi and it gave me the same thing.

Out of curioisty... Is there a thing called "Secure Boot" in your bios? Cause if there is... Disable that and enable legacy devices and try to boot



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Cj2i3 on 07 April 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:

Windows 7

And yeah with 750 I get the bios options and the gateway logo and after a minute or so a blank screen with an underscore in the top left just pulsing.

Very interesting... So what I am thinking might be happening is:

a) Its trying to boot from the internal video card and you have to force it to boot from the pci-e through bios settings
b) The res might be too high for it without drivers so maybe put the 7750 back in and lower the res to as low as possible and then try the 750
c) It doesn't detect the HDMI without proper Drivers so you may need to use DVi first, boot, install drivers and then use HDMI

See if any of those work

Alright I'm gonna try all of these, I have a question on A. though. I feel that might be the issue and but I'm not sure how to default it to pcie through the bios settings? I used this site to try and walk me through it: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/enable-pci-express-card-slot-36591.html but I couldn't find or don't have a video configuration option.

 

I tried C I used a Dvi and it gave me the same thing.

Out of curioisty... Is there a thing called "Secure Boot" in your bios? Cause if there is... Disable that and enable legacy devices and try to boot

Alright I'm gonna give that a go.

tried b and that didn't work

and just FYI I really appreciate your help.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 07 April 2014
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Out of curioisty... Is there a thing called "Secure Boot" in your bios? Cause if there is... Disable that and enable legacy devices and try to boot

Alright I'm gonna give that a go.

tried b and that didn't work

and just FYI I really appreciate your help.

No worries! PC's aren't always the easiest things to work with, thats for sure!



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Cj2i3 on 07 April 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Out of curioisty... Is there a thing called "Secure Boot" in your bios? Cause if there is... Disable that and enable legacy devices and try to boot

Alright I'm gonna give that a go.

tried b and that didn't work

and just FYI I really appreciate your help.

No worries! PC's aren't always the easiest things to work with, thats for sure!

Ok it took me way longer than it should of to get to my bios options, but atm I haven't found anything under secure boot what does it normally fall under? 

i.e. Main, Advanced, etc... Though I'm seeing nothing.

I assume the boot options so I see nothing



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 07 April 2014
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Out of curioisty... Is there a thing called "Secure Boot" in your bios? Cause if there is... Disable that and enable legacy devices and try to boot

Alright I'm gonna give that a go.

tried b and that didn't work

and just FYI I really appreciate your help.

No worries! PC's aren't always the easiest things to work with, thats for sure!

Ok it took me way longer than it should of to get to my bios options, but atm I haven't found anything under secure boot what does it normally fall under? 

i.e. Main, Advanced, etc... Though I'm seeing nothing.

I assume the boot options so I see nothing

Should be under security. Any idea what mobo ur PC is? Like the model number?



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Cj2i3 on 07 April 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Out of curioisty... Is there a thing called "Secure Boot" in your bios? Cause if there is... Disable that and enable legacy devices and try to boot

Alright I'm gonna give that a go.

tried b and that didn't work

and just FYI I really appreciate your help.

No worries! PC's aren't always the easiest things to work with, thats for sure!

Ok it took me way longer than it should of to get to my bios options, but atm I haven't found anything under secure boot what does it normally fall under? 

i.e. Main, Advanced, etc... Though I'm seeing nothing.

I assume the boot options so I see nothing

Should be under security. Any idea what mobo ur PC is? Like the model number?

Im gonna get it.

Could the card just be DOA? The thing is that it showed me the bios options and gateway logo which leads me to believe that it's okay.



Samer305 on 07 April 2014

If the video card is giving you a picture its fine. If it gets past the bios screen and shows the blinking cursor "_"
then its not booting because of a hdd issue of some sort. if it was the video card you wouldn't see that cursor blinking, the monitor light would be orange.