Sharu said:
RCTjunkie said: Why is Russia going to Ukraine in the first place? I mean, I know basically why, but what are the ties that Russia has with them? Are they there to support the government or the rebellion? |
Russia supports its legal president, Yanukovich. The rebels who get to power are not recognised by offical Russia as Ukraine authorities.
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AFAIK, Russia is not exactly supporting the President in the way suggested by this, they never liked him to begin with, but are now simply stating that he is the legitimate president, which is a pretty obvious position when you look at how the "revolution" took power, and "impeached" him without proper procedure or the mandated super majority. The revolutionaries seem to want to have their way with no compromise (still no explanation I've heard why they NEEDED to abandon the EU negotiated agreement), and Russia's position has been that they should find consensus with all the country in order to establish a legitimate government after a break with the constitutional order - after all if that order was overthrown, why sholdn't other regions take the revolution in their own direction? Russia was TALKING about that for about a week after the Kiev revolution, without any military action, but nobody in Kiev or NATO paid any attention. They were too occupied in their moment of triumph demolishing Russia's perceived interests, they were the "winners" so didn't care what Russia or anybody else in Ukraine had to say, they had the power so why negotiate with the losers?
So now NATO is shocked at Russia's actions, and defends the revolutionary government which includes Military ministers and Prosecutor General from Svoboda party (that the EU Parliament itself identifies as neo-nazi and that should not be cooperated with), and which has been arresting local citizens and politicians that have tried to organize for regional autonomy/federalism. Along with plenty of actions outside of official government by rightwing extremists, intimidating politicians to resign, etc.
But it's all about Crimea by the Western media. The West ALWAYS follows international law and respects sovereignty
- ahem- Libya - Afghanistan - Kosovo - Yugoslavia - Granada - ahem.
Oh gee, have you heard the news from Libya recently? The Western and Gulf Sheikdom media reports on # of deaths by Qadafi's regime against protesters turned about to be hugely exaggerated, which of course was the entire basis for the "need" for intervention to overthrow the government. Never mind the subsequent deaths of the civil war, or ongoing chaos and criminality, or black people being rounded up in camps, or Parliament now hiding from armed gangs unable to meet in official buildings, and secessionist rebels holding sway. If it's NATO and Qatar and Saudi Arabia, they've got human rights COVERED.