Hence why I said it's how you manage the RAM in my individual post, however fast the eSRAM or however low the latency might be, it's still just 32MB of it with 8GB of DDR3 that's much further away. The same can be said about the PS4's 8GB as it's by default further away from the GPU and CPU even though you have more of it at that speed. Either way though, as far as overall graphical processing abilities go, PS4 currently does have the edge, not that I think it really matters since you have something like the Wii U(weaker) on the market and more powerful hardware in PCs and the upcoming Steam OS powered PCs(AKA Steam Box.)

you forgot to multiply all of xbone's stats by 3x for teh cloud.

And the limitations of the PS4 are a unified memory, a easy to use and program architecture, and a stronger console. I would love to have those limitations.

Incase you didn't know Xbox One games can be played offline. The devs can't have the game looking beast with those with online and crap for those without.

I have seen only two or three original articles that tap into these datails. They say both are powerfull, they say both are close, one could be "faster" whatever this means, one could be easier to developer and jsut that. Every other is derived from those or pure speculaion based on the early leaks.

Again, where are the games? That is simple.

They just have to show one game running at 50% more resolution or frame rate. I´m not even asking for shadows or particles effects. 

People with none, what so ever, technical background are fighting to denay whatever a Microsoft engineer (the best and most well paid) has to say. 

And just belive that Mark Cerny is a God, a guy that no one has heard about before february 2013.

That is rediculous.

your not setting the bar high there, 30 frames vs 45 frames 720p vs 900p these are 50% margins

Acording to Ethomaz:

The PS4 can´t swap into games or apps. You might not suspend  Knack and go play a multplay match of COD with yuor friends.

I think you can only have a game and the OS open, and switch between them. It's not like you can have a movie, then go to a game that is already playing in the backround, with something downloading. You can have knack playing then enter the PSN Store, and that is all you can do from what I know. Also the Xbox One has a menu hub that shows what you are doing on all types of media, the PS4 doesn't do that, there are a lot more resource heavy things going on with the Xbone.

The reality is we don't know what the possible impact off-system computing will have.

"The Cloud" is nothing more than Client/Server computing in some respects.  To assume there isn't potential in that is to be ignorant of reality.  After the PC was released, businesses started creating client/server applications where PCs were used essentially for UI and mainframes and UNIX servers did all the heavy processing.  Eventually, with the advent of the web, you had lightweight applications that ran on the client that accessed the Web server, which did all the heavy processing. 

Heck, multiplayer games are nothing more than client/server computing.  The only difference is that the rendering takes place on the local client.  Regardless of whether it's a peer-to-peer or server-to-peer arrangement, one system does all the leg work in determining where everyone in the game is and how they're all meshing together. 

People, like yourself, may like to playdown the impact off-system computing will have in the cloud, but the reality is it can be extremely powerful.  We are beginning to run into a wall in terms of computing.  They've developed single atom circuits.  They can't get any smaller than single atoms.  Unless computing moves away from Silicon, then what will eventually happen is we will hit a wall.  Device won't get smaller, computing power won't grow exponentially every few years, and the only way to get more power into a machine is you either build a bigger box or you offload computational work.

Quantum computing is still decades away.  Other mediums that allow better cooling properies than silicon and would allow smaller dies are still being developed.  Even still, they won't be able to offer a circuit size smaller than the atomic level, they'll only allow engineers to develop dies with less space between circuits and still run cool.  Not to mention operate without shorting out. 

So yeah.  If for cost reasons you can't increase the size of your device, then in order to expand the capabilities of what it can do you will need to offload some of the computation onto servers.  For consumers, that's the cloud.  Businesses have the option of in-house servers as well as cloud-based servers.

Truthfact: People bought 360s over the PS3 because of the graphics powah! /sarcasm

Truthfact: No one ultimately cares about graphics, look at Wii and 3DS sales compared to 360/PS3 and Vita sales.