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Incubi on 23 September 2013
superchunk said:
ninjablade said:

the reason is  nintendo is embarrassed  to show there specs , its a 160 sp gpu, and nintendo wants to keep it a secret, no other company hides there specs like nintendo, and nintendo only started hiding there specs, with the wii brand, and the reason is, because the specs are embarrasing compared to the competition

Pretty sure MS has done a great job not providing the actual APU information. Just bland and purposefully confusing sum of processors. Why? because they wanted to prevent direct from source comparisons.

Same as Nintendo.

There is a lot more to it than GPU HD7xxx-b.

Wii U is certainly far more capable and we're just starting to see glimpses of what is in store.

X was likely very early on and it looked phenominal.
I'm betting Watch_Dogs will look and play better on Wii U than PS360 and in reality not be all that far from PS4/XBone.

There's a reason EA didn't put its sports games on Wii U. THey would have been identical to PS4/Xbone. Instead EA built crap last to create a situation where they could not release this year to help MSony. Now in 2014 they'll come back with artificially gimped work... just like last year.

By then it won't matter though as Nintendo will have the titles it needs with what is coming now plus smash/mk8.

So you're also into that theory in which the members of the 3rd party cabal intentionally gimped their multiplatform WiiU releases so they didn't look that much better than their PS360 counterparts in an effort to halt a potential situation where WiiU would be another PS2 with too much marketshare for their liking? I certainly can understand why 3rd party publisher are super afraid of an all powerful NintendoXD

Imagine a world with no moneyhatting? Imagine a world where 3rd parties would actually HAVE to release complete, bugfree games? That would just be devestating!



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MDMAlliance on 23 September 2013
ninjablade said:

for all the talk about wiiu graphics looking better then current gen, all you have to do is post direct feed gameplay pics of the best looking ps3/360 games vs the best looking wiiu games, its easy to se that current gen games still look much better then best of wiiu.


Incoming, RDR time



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 23 September 2013
Incubi said:
superchunk said:
ninjablade said:

the reason is  nintendo is embarrassed  to show there specs , its a 160 sp gpu, and nintendo wants to keep it a secret, no other company hides there specs like nintendo, and nintendo only started hiding there specs, with the wii brand, and the reason is, because the specs are embarrasing compared to the competition

Pretty sure MS has done a great job not providing the actual APU information. Just bland and purposefully confusing sum of processors. Why? because they wanted to prevent direct from source comparisons.

Same as Nintendo.

There is a lot more to it than GPU HD7xxx-b.

Wii U is certainly far more capable and we're just starting to see glimpses of what is in store.

X was likely very early on and it looked phenominal.
I'm betting Watch_Dogs will look and play better on Wii U than PS360 and in reality not be all that far from PS4/XBone.

There's a reason EA didn't put its sports games on Wii U. THey would have been identical to PS4/Xbone. Instead EA built crap last to create a situation where they could not release this year to help MSony. Now in 2014 they'll come back with artificially gimped work... just like last year.

By then it won't matter though as Nintendo will have the titles it needs with what is coming now plus smash/mk8.

So you're also into that theory in which the members of the 3rd party cabal intentionally gimped their multiplatform WiiU releases so they didn't look that much better than their PS360 counterparts in an effort to halt a potential situation where WiiU would be another PS2 with too much marketshare for their liking? I certainly can understand why 3rd party publisher are super afraid of an all powerful NintendoXD

Imagine a world with no moneyhatting? Imagine a world where 3rd parties would actually HAVE to release complete, bugfree games? That would just be devestating!


Crytek was pretty steemed about EA canning their work on Crysis 3 ( which was done by the way)



Pavolink on 23 September 2013
MDMAlliance said:
ninjablade said:

for all the talk about wiiu graphics looking better then current gen, all you have to do is post direct feed gameplay pics of the best looking ps3/360 games vs the best looking wiiu games, its easy to se that current gen games still look much better then best of wiiu.


Incoming, RDR time

RDR vs Wii U



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Incubi on 23 September 2013
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
Incubi said:
superchunk said:
ninjablade said:

the reason is  nintendo is embarrassed  to show there specs , its a 160 sp gpu, and nintendo wants to keep it a secret, no other company hides there specs like nintendo, and nintendo only started hiding there specs, with the wii brand, and the reason is, because the specs are embarrasing compared to the competition

Pretty sure MS has done a great job not providing the actual APU information. Just bland and purposefully confusing sum of processors. Why? because they wanted to prevent direct from source comparisons.

Same as Nintendo.

There is a lot more to it than GPU HD7xxx-b.

Wii U is certainly far more capable and we're just starting to see glimpses of what is in store.

X was likely very early on and it looked phenominal.
I'm betting Watch_Dogs will look and play better on Wii U than PS360 and in reality not be all that far from PS4/XBone.

There's a reason EA didn't put its sports games on Wii U. THey would have been identical to PS4/Xbone. Instead EA built crap last to create a situation where they could not release this year to help MSony. Now in 2014 they'll come back with artificially gimped work... just like last year.

By then it won't matter though as Nintendo will have the titles it needs with what is coming now plus smash/mk8.

So you're also into that theory in which the members of the 3rd party cabal intentionally gimped their multiplatform WiiU releases so they didn't look that much better than their PS360 counterparts in an effort to halt a potential situation where WiiU would be another PS2 with too much marketshare for their liking? I certainly can understand why 3rd party publisher are super afraid of an all powerful NintendoXD

Imagine a world with no moneyhatting? Imagine a world where 3rd parties would actually HAVE to release complete, bugfree games? That would just be devestating!


Crytek was pretty steemed about EA canning their work on Crysis 3 ( which was done by the way)

I'd guess they know all too well that 1st party+2nd party+3rd party=Nintendo's partyXD



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Zero999 on 23 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:

@Everyone

Guys, I'm only going to listen on what ubisoft has to say about the WII U concerning it's hardware considering that there the only agnostic developer as evidenced by their support on the WII U and the fact that they probably aren't biased either like shin'en considering that they don't exculsively just develop for one manufacturer (Nintendo).

shin'en only develops for nintendo because they want. and their actions on the hardware prove their statements about it.



S.Peelman on 23 September 2013
Pavolink said:

RDR vs Wii U

Everyone knows that last one is a bullshot, this is more like WiiU:

And that RDR shot is made in bad part of the game, it's actually so detailed it definitely looks like this:



Zero999 on 23 September 2013
curl-6 said:

Ubisoft farm out their Wii U projects to their B teams and make virtually the bare minimum of effort though.

In a year, this hasn't changed, hence I don't expect it to for Watch Dogs. We'll get a lazy 360 port that doesn't even make use of the more double RAM.

how many times one must remind that the Wii U/ps4/xone version of watch dogs is a pc port? the ps360 versions are even lower pc ports.



Zero999 on 23 September 2013
daredevil.shark said:
Zero999 said:


This character is very similar to super saiyan 4 goku.

that's the point. your coment deserves another post of that image lol



Zero999 on 23 September 2013
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:
C'mon people, Neo Assault Nano doesn't look that impressive to me at all. I don't think it's doing anything cutting edge in the technical department. 720p ? Really ? Be honest with yourself, this isn't an impressive show case to what the WII U is capable of given the fact that it's an eshop title so I don't expect much from it. Hell even X looks more impressive to me than what they did.

60fps on two screens, (nearly 50% more pixels than just 720p) while doing techniques PS3/360 can't. That's better than anything Ubisoft have accomplished.

and they claimed they just needed one of the cpu cores. and the game ran like that without any need for optimisation.