I have a Surface pro and I put steam on it.  I have been playing Skyrim and sim city just fine.  I have an HDMI output and watch movies and have played a games on it.  I have other devices for that right now.  I am not sure if we will see enough of a jump this year, but I would guess that the Surface 3 that comes out at the end of next year will be pretty close.  

The thing that people should fear more for consoles is that they are both now x86.  Now, any game can easily be ported to Windows(especially XB1 games)  So, within 3 years when the PS360 support is basically gone, a lot of the games will be PC and PS4 or PC and XB1.  The real need for the consoles will only diminsh progressively from there.

Not really desktop sales are in decline, people wanting games will still get the cheaper console and more than likley a cheap tablet for web browsing. 

I was referring to the whole batch of tablets that are now running full versions of Windows 8.1(NOT  Windows RT) that are releasing in the next few months.  That will only grow more and more that Intel is focusing on tablet and smartphone processors.  The IOS/Android tide on these devices is begining to subside.  M$ has a long road ahead, but people follow what they use at work very often.  M$ is working overtime to convert the business crowd to Windows 8.1 and to implement windows 8.1 tablets into those environments.  The next 18 months will be very interesting.

I just dont see it, averages uses arent wanting to blow £1000+ on tablets, there will be some obviously but it wont be the insane mass market like  £400 ipads are. Im a windows 8 fan as well and i just dont see it, even tho i would probably go for a surface pro if i was in the market for a tablet. 

People especailly business people are already use to ipads in the office environment, there will be no real corrolation to converting from desktop PCs, all tablets are compatible with windows, to the level that most business uses need. 

Thank you, Randy Pitchford.

Lol people here don't realize why phones or tablets an never be as powerful as these consoles. People lack the most basic idea of heat and efficiency and whats more is that even with a 5nm process node they will still not be as powerful as consoles.

wow...  so sony makes a patent to can used games but all of a sudden watching the net cry babies tearing microsoft a new one they backed off.  you can guarantee if the babies would have been fine with it sony would have done the same.  why?  with drm they could've have came with a new pricing model.  think about it like this what if with the drm stuff you could have  bought a new game for $35 while ps4 games are $60?  yeah they would have done it alright.  so when you rub that crystal ball or call cleo theyll show  that the vocal minority was more responsible for delaying where the industry is headed.

i mean its like yall really hate the developers. 

Do you have any evidence to back your claim that it was because of the backlash that microsoft had ? BTW you probably don't have any seeing as how sony made clear in feburary that they wouldn't put any restrictions on things such as check ins or used games. Oh and most of us hate crappy developers so their games deserve not to profit at all.

I agree that the expensive tablets aren't the "sweet spot" today.  But todays expensive tablets are tomorrow's mid priced tablets and tomorrow's mid price are the low end tablets 2 years from now.  Kind of where I was heading, 3 -4 years from now, the average tablet for $400-$500 will be capable of doing most of what the PS4/XB1 can do now.  People get stuck looking at ipdas as the standard bearer of what tablets offer.  The reality is that the broke open the tablet market, but they are no where near the leaders in design anymore.  They still sell the hell out of their units, but their market share is 30% of what it used to be.  As more and more people use the alternatives, the Ipad mania has lost its luster. 

I always imagine people like you in a different world. A world where steam crashed and burned because of people's initial complaints, and so older PC games had to be bought digitally from their specific publishers, and not for drastically reduced prices. And the ignorant masses would be triumphing over how Steam would have screwed everyone, but EA saved gaming. 

Guess what? a disc is a DRM of sorts. You step on it, you scratch it, you lose it, and your game, and all it's value, is gone. For anyone like me, who never sells back used games, and has reliable internet, Microsoft's plan was leaps and bounds better in every conceivable way. Game sharing would have enabled my friends and I to play the same games, without buying multiple copies, and if we played split screen games over each other's houses, we would never have even needed to think about bringing discs to other people's houses. Plans change at the last minute, end up over a random friends house? You automatically would have access to the games library of every person, due to their xbox live account, and every game being on the cloud. Sounds terrible, huh?