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Do you think it should be restricted?

Yes, I agree. 9 16.07%
 
Why no, good sir 28 50.00%
 
I'm Indifferent 9 16.07%
 
Good thing I have my shit on tapes 4 7.14%
 
No more Janet Jackme :( 6 10.71%
 
Total:56
hysterianut said:
the entire western world is hell bent on socialism

The entire Western World *is* socialist, except for maybe the United States. Everyone has adopted the basics of the social-democratic platform. The socialism of Lasalle, Robert Owen, the Fabians and Proudhon, not the socialism of Marx, Rosa Luxemburg, Louis-Auguste Blanqui, Bakunin, Ulyanov, and Djugashvili



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Mr Khan said:
hysterianut said:
the entire western world is hell bent on socialism

The entire Western World *is* socialist, except for maybe the United States. Everyone has adopted the basics of the social-democratic platform. The socialism of Lasalle, Robert Owen, the Fabians and Proudhon, not the socialism of Marx, Rosa Luxemburg, Louis-Auguste Blanqui, Bakunin, Ulyanov, and Djugashvili


i know that but the western socialism is eventually leading upto communism of marx.

capitalism-socialism-communism

 

socialism is the middle point after capitalism

 

the east on the other is going from communism to socialism to capitalism



hysterianut said:
Mr Khan said:
hysterianut said:
the entire western world is hell bent on socialism

The entire Western World *is* socialist, except for maybe the United States. Everyone has adopted the basics of the social-democratic platform. The socialism of Lasalle, Robert Owen, the Fabians and Proudhon, not the socialism of Marx, Rosa Luxemburg, Louis-Auguste Blanqui, Bakunin, Ulyanov, and Djugashvili


i know that but the western socialism is eventually leading upto communism of marx.

capitalism-socialism-communism

 

socialism is the middle point after capitalism

 

the east on the other is going from communism to socialism to capitalism

Marxism-Leninism is simply a high-gear form of state socialism, as it did not promote the properly Communist ends and were more focused on accelerating backwards Soviet Russia (and the other backwards eastern european and eventually Asian, African, and Latin American countries as well) to a point of economic maturity where they could endeavor to jump for proper, end-stage Communism, which more resembles anarcho-syndicalism just with all the benefits of modern living. However, even the basic elements of proper Communism never really took root anywhere, since Collectivization was really more about jump-starting productivity on farms and Industrial Socialism was more about achieving autarky believed necessary to weed out the corrupting influence of foreign trade.

The Swiss are actually closest, since they're seriously debating implementation of a Guaranteed Minimum Income, which would be the first of its kind towards guaranteeing a society free from want for basic needs, which would be the first step. The end step necessitates post-scarcity, which the world as a whole needs much more in the way of scientific innovation to achieve.



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I guess the UK hates more money considering this is a time of economic recession not a flourishing economy. The pron industry is pretty big so I don't know why the UK government is acting extremely dumb.



Mr Khan said:
hysterianut said:
Mr Khan said:
hysterianut said:
the entire western world is hell bent on socialism

The entire Western World *is* socialist, except for maybe the United States. Everyone has adopted the basics of the social-democratic platform. The socialism of Lasalle, Robert Owen, the Fabians and Proudhon, not the socialism of Marx, Rosa Luxemburg, Louis-Auguste Blanqui, Bakunin, Ulyanov, and Djugashvili


i know that but the western socialism is eventually leading upto communism of marx.

capitalism-socialism-communism

 

socialism is the middle point after capitalism

 

the east on the other is going from communism to socialism to capitalism

Marxism-Leninism is simply a high-gear form of state socialism, as it did not promote the properly Communist ends and were more focused on accelerating backwards Soviet Russia (and the other backwards eastern european and eventually Asian, African, and Latin American countries as well) to a point of economic maturity where they could endeavor to jump for proper, end-stage Communism, which more resembles anarcho-syndicalism just with all the benefits of modern living. However, even the basic elements of proper Communism never really took root anywhere, since Collectivization was really more about jump-starting productivity on farms and Industrial Socialism was more about achieving autarky believed necessary to weed out the corrupting influence of foreign trade.

The Swiss are actually closest, since they're seriously debating implementation of a Guaranteed Minimum Income, which would be the first of its kind towards guaranteeing a society free from want for basic needs, which would be the first step. The end step necessitates post-scarcity, which the world as a whole needs much more in the way of scientific innovation to achieve.

alot ofwhat you say i agree

 

but progress always comes through a free mind which comes from a free market not by regulating things.



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Weedlab said:

How do you feel about the UK Government restricting online porn? Some of my friends in the UK had an interesting take on this, and there were arguments for both sides. What do you think? Do you think this should be emulated in other areas too (say your own country)? Sound off!

EDIT ... in my tiredness I placed this under gaming discussion. Oops ... :)


it's really just a gimmick policy from Cameron in response to pressure from elements of the reactionary press (read: Daily Fail), the policy itself is really badly thought out and won't actually do anything other than mean schools will filter out websites that are educational as well as extreme ones that kids will find ways to access anyway.

the idea of the "opt in" thing for the entire country I doubt will come about, even if it did most people would opt in anyway cause who would want to have this government decide what you can and can't do online? 

I'm almost impressed how unpopular the coalition has managed to be, I mean, to be lagging behind Labour in the polls even now and despite Ed Milliband having all the public relations skill of a dead horse, that takes quite some doing...unless there is like a mini-boom in the economy or something then it looks nigh on impossible that the coaltion will continue or that the Tories could get enough percentage of the vote to gain a majority.