How do you feel about the UK government ...

[hysterianut]

Mr Khan said:

hysterianut said:

Mr Khan said:

hysterianut said:
the entire western world is hell bent on socialism

The entire Western World *is* socialist, except for maybe the United States. Everyone has adopted the basics of the social-democratic platform. The socialism of Lasalle, Robert Owen, the Fabians and Proudhon, not the socialism of Marx, Rosa Luxemburg, Louis-Auguste Blanqui, Bakunin, Ulyanov, and Djugashvili

i know that but the western socialism is eventually leading upto communism of marx.

capitalism-socialism-communism

 

socialism is the middle point after capitalism

 

the east on the other is going from communism to socialism to capitalism

Marxism-Leninism is simply a high-gear form of state socialism, as it did not promote the properly Communist ends and were more focused on accelerating backwards Soviet Russia (and the other backwards eastern european and eventually Asian, African, and Latin American countries as well) to a point of economic maturity where they could endeavor to jump for proper, end-stage Communism, which more resembles anarcho-syndicalism just with all the benefits of modern living. However, even the basic elements of proper Communism never really took root anywhere, since Collectivization was really more about jump-starting productivity on farms and Industrial Socialism was more about achieving autarky believed necessary to weed out the corrupting influence of foreign trade.

The Swiss are actually closest, since they're seriously debating implementation of a Guaranteed Minimum Income, which would be the first of its kind towards guaranteeing a society free from want for basic needs, which would be the first step. The end step necessitates post-scarcity, which the world as a whole needs much more in the way of scientific innovation to achieve.

alot ofwhat you say i agree

 

but progress always comes through a free mind which comes from a free market not by regulating things.