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bananaking21 said:
so just how big is this game in japan?

It's pretty big. It's hardly Monster Hunter, but the last three games have each hit about 0.6m in japan. Yakuza 3 also sold 0.44m outside of japan, and Yakuza 4 sold 0.25m outside of japan. It's why SEGA's decision to not bring over Yakuza 5 to the west makes bugger all sense. All they do when localizing it is add subtitles, you would think it would be worth it for an extra quarter if a million sales :/



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I hope that it'll get a western release.



ListerOfSmeg said:
CGI-Quality said:

Wouldn't be silly at all, since Yakuza is always a big seller for PlayStation there (both consoles and individual units). It would be just what would get the Japanese region on board. There's only two other, unlikely, scenarios, and they both point to a PlayStation. 



The last 3 barely broke 500k on a console that is region free and a much bigger install base then PS4. Vita maybe but PS4 would be suicide. You really think 500k is a big seller? lol sorry I just find that amusing. NMH, MAdworld are now big sellers

Urg, why do people think sales are directly proportional to install base... Fall of Man was released at the PS3's launch, but it still sold over 4 million copies ¬_¬ 

Anyway, Yakuza is a big series in japan, the last three have each sold about 600k over there. For reference, Super Mario Galazy 2 sold less than a million copies in japan and Skyward Sword sold less than 400k copies. So as you can see, 600k is actually pretty good for a home console release in japan.



CGI-Quality said:
SunofKratos said:
PS4 Japan release date sep 9
New Yakuzas Ishin News Sep 9

So PS4 exclusive confirmed.

Of course it's a PS4 exclusive. Be silly to be any other way, since that where the fans will flock. The news I'm looking for is an update on Atlus, which will cause me to sell a kidney if Sony added them to their first party greatness!


Hahaha, are there still people who think that a firstparty will grab Atlus  ? It is better for both sides if they stay independant (Mainline SMT and Etrian Odyssey on one side, Persona and games like Dragon´s Crown on the other side)



riderz13371 said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
CGI-Quality said:
SunofKratos said:
PS4 Japan release date sep 9
New Yakuzas Ishin News Sep 9

So PS4 exclusive confirmed.

Of course it's a PS4 exclusive. Be silly to be any other way, since that where the fans will flock. The news I'm looking for is an update on Atlus, which will cause me to sell a kidney if Sony added them to their first party greatness!



It's be silly to go with an install base of 0 vs an already established console.. Probably a good thing you dont run a development company.

If it is PS4 exclusive dont expect it til 2015.

 

Oh I am curious how Yakuza sales are. It being Japan exclusive is meaningless because PS3 and PS4 wont be region locked so the games should be getting a great boost from US gamers importing it... If there is any truth to region locking beig bad that is. Ouch 500k for the last 3 games. I thought region free was going to benefit games like this but I see it was just a talking point after all

 

 

Yes that does sound silly, and yet most developers have chosen to develop for the next gen consoles that have an install base of 0 versus the one that's been out for a year. Silly developers, they know nothing.

Sure they are dude, sure they are. Did Rockstar? No GTA is on PS3. Curious what games you are talking about that are exclusive to PS4 and not on current gen consoles? Planetside2? PC port. Diablo 3? PC port. DC Universe online? PC port. Titanfall? Not even coming to PS4. Battlefield? Nope its current gen as well as next gen.

 

Now maybe in your reply you can respond with something useful instead of just being condescending without reason. Let me save you some time. Here are the launch games. Point out the 3rd party exclusives for me cause all I see are current/next gen multi plats


Game
Developer
Info
Retail Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag [3] Ubisoft Wiki
Retail
Battlefield 4 [4] DICE Wiki
PSN / F2P Blacklight: Retribution [5] Zombie Studios Wiki
Retail Call of Duty: Ghosts* Infinity Ward Wiki
PSN Contrast [6] Compulsion Games Wiki
PSN / F2P DC Universe Online* Sony Online Entertainment Wiki
PSN DiveKick [n] One True Game Studios Wiki
Retail / PS+ DriveClub [7] Evolution Studios Wiki
Retail FIFA 14* EA Sports Wiki
Retail Just Dance 2014 [8] Ubisoft Wiki
Retail Killzone Shadow Fall [9] Guerilla Games Wiki
Retail Knack [10]
SCE Japan Studio Wiki
Retail LEGO Marvel Super Heroes* TT Games Wiki
Retail Madden NFL 25* EA Sports Wiki
PSN Minecraft [11] 4J Studios Wiki
Retail NBA 2K14* Visual Concepts Wiki
Retail NBA Live 14* EA Sports Wiki
Retail Need for Speed: Rivals* Ghost, Criterion Wiki
PSN Pinball Arcade [12] FarSight Studios Wiki
Pack-in The PlayRoom [13] Sony Wiki
PSN / PS+ Resogun [14] Housemarque Wiki
Retail Skylanders Swap Force* Vicarious Visions Wiki
PSN Super Motherload [15] XGen Studios Wiki
PSN Switch Galaxy Ultra Atomicom Wiki
PSN Tiny Brains [16] Spearhead Games Wiki
PSN / F2P Warframe [17]
Digital Extremes Wiki
PSN / F2P War Thunder [18] Gaijin Entertainment Wiki
Retail Watch Dogs* Ubisoft Montreal Wiki


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Well, the most logical weems that's gonna be a PS4 exclusive launch day title... and I don't think it will be ready for 2015... because yakuza have been releasing annually on this generation since the third... and the last one was 2012 release... so I think the have time to develope a new install for next generations..

But I wouldn't surprise if it is for PS3 and PS4... because the graphics showed until now doesn't look very nextgen...

PD: I would love SEGA releasing a virtua Fighter together with PS4... PS4 will lack on its launch day a fighting game and a Ridge racer :/



 

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Zekkyou said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
CGI-Quality said:

Wouldn't be silly at all, since Yakuza is always a big seller for PlayStation there (both consoles and individual units). It would be just what would get the Japanese region on board. There's only two other, unlikely, scenarios, and they both point to a PlayStation. 



The last 3 barely broke 500k on a console that is region free and a much bigger install base then PS4. Vita maybe but PS4 would be suicide. You really think 500k is a big seller? lol sorry I just find that amusing. NMH, MAdworld are now big sellers

Urg, why do people think sales are directly proportional to install base... Fall of Man was released at the PS3's launch, but it still sold over 4 million copies ¬_¬ 

Anyway, Yakuza is a big series in japan, the last three have each sold about 600k over there. For reference, Super Mario Galazy 2 sold less than a million copies in japan and Skyward Sword sold less than 400k copies. So as you can see, 600k is actually pretty good for a home console release in japan.

You only have one game and that was due to there being nothing else to play.

SMG and Zelda are region locked. Yakuza isnt and the point I was making is that on a region free console, people who claimed it was a needed feaeture should be buying Yakuza but that isnt the case. If Region free is so important then the games that are exclusive to Japan should reflect that. The fact is that they dont.

600k worldwide is not stellar sales. But please bring up more region locked games to combat this argument.



CGI-Quality said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
riderz13371 said:

Yes that does sound silly, and yet most developers have chosen to develop for the next gen consoles that have an install base of 0 versus the one that's been out for a year. Silly developers, they know nothing.

Sure they are dude, sure they are. Did Rockstar? No GTA is on PS3. Curious what games you are talking about that are exclusive to PS4 and not on current gen consoles? Planetside2? PC port. Diablo 3? PC port. DC Universe online? PC port. Titanfall? Not even coming to PS4. Battlefield? Nope its current gen as well as next gen.

 

Now maybe in your reply you can respond with something useful instead of just being condescending without reason. Let me save you some time. Here are the launch games. Point out the 3rd party exclusives for me cause all I see are current/next gen multi plats


Game
Developer
Info
Retail Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag [3] Ubisoft Wiki
Retail
Battlefield 4 [4] DICE Wiki
PSN / F2P Blacklight: Retribution [5] Zombie Studios Wiki
Retail Call of Duty: Ghosts* Infinity Ward Wiki
PSN Contrast [6] Compulsion Games Wiki
PSN / F2P DC Universe Online* Sony Online Entertainment Wiki
PSN DiveKick [n] One True Game Studios Wiki
Retail / PS+ DriveClub [7] Evolution Studios Wiki
Retail FIFA 14* EA Sports Wiki
Retail Just Dance 2014 [8] Ubisoft Wiki
Retail Killzone Shadow Fall [9] Guerilla Games Wiki
Retail Knack [10]
SCE Japan Studio Wiki
Retail LEGO Marvel Super Heroes* TT Games Wiki
Retail Madden NFL 25* EA Sports Wiki
PSN Minecraft [11] 4J Studios Wiki
Retail NBA 2K14* Visual Concepts Wiki
Retail NBA Live 14* EA Sports Wiki
Retail Need for Speed: Rivals* Ghost, Criterion Wiki
PSN Pinball Arcade [12] FarSight Studios Wiki
Pack-in The PlayRoom [13] Sony Wiki
PSN / PS+ Resogun [14] Housemarque Wiki
Retail Skylanders Swap Force* Vicarious Visions Wiki
PSN Super Motherload [15] XGen Studios Wiki
PSN Switch Galaxy Ultra Atomicom Wiki
PSN Tiny Brains [16] Spearhead Games Wiki
PSN / F2P Warframe [17]
Digital Extremes Wiki
PSN / F2P War Thunder [18] Gaijin Entertainment Wiki
Retail Watch Dogs* Ubisoft Montreal Wiki

So many games left out, including console exclusive Outlast for PS4. It also doesn't negate that Yakuza will do fine in Japan, by itself, either.


You mean this Outlast? Another PC port?
http://www.ign.com/games/outlast/pc-145344

Great point to counter my argument by bringing up yet another port of a PC game.



ListerOfSmeg said:
Zekkyou said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
CGI-Quality said:

Wouldn't be silly at all, since Yakuza is always a big seller for PlayStation there (both consoles and individual units). It would be just what would get the Japanese region on board. There's only two other, unlikely, scenarios, and they both point to a PlayStation. 



The last 3 barely broke 500k on a console that is region free and a much bigger install base then PS4. Vita maybe but PS4 would be suicide. You really think 500k is a big seller? lol sorry I just find that amusing. NMH, MAdworld are now big sellers

Urg, why do people think sales are directly proportional to install base... Fall of Man was released at the PS3's launch, but it still sold over 4 million copies ¬_¬ 

Anyway, Yakuza is a big series in japan, the last three have each sold about 600k over there. For reference, Super Mario Galazy 2 sold less than a million copies in japan and Skyward Sword sold less than 400k copies. So as you can see, 600k is actually pretty good for a home console release in japan.

You only have one game and that was due to there being nothing else to play.

SMG and Zelda are region locked. Yakuza isnt and the point I was making is that on a region free console, people who claimed it was a needed feaeture should be buying Yakuza but that isnt the case. If Region free is so important then the games that are exclusive to Japan should reflect that. The fact is that they dont.

600k worldwide is not stellar sales. But please bring up more region locked games to combat this argument.

Games sell over the period of years. When a console launches, while the install base may be smaller, the number of games it has to compete with is tiny. I could name you several games released during the first year of a console that have sold several million copies. Gears of War? Resistance? Motorstorm? The Elder Scrolls 4? I think you get the point :) 

Of cooourse! A game heavily aimed at the Japanese market, spoken in a language that only a minority outside of japan know, is obviously going to be imported hundreds of thousands of times in the west! How silly of me ^^

Seriously though, that's a hilarious statement :P For that to be true compared to let's say, Skyward Sword, you would be making the claim that over 1/3 of it's Japanese sales were imports :')



CGI-Quality said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
CGI-Quality said:

So many games left out, including console exclusive Outlast for PS4. It also doesn't negate that Yakuza will do fine in Japan, by itself, either.


You mean this Outlast? Another PC port?
http://www.ign.com/games/outlast/pc-145344

Great point to counter my argument by bringing up yet another port of a PC game.

You can try to be as, ironically, condescending as you want. Another PC port? Not sure where I brought up another, but in that vein, why list Warframe and skip Outlast or Daylight (games that will remain exclusive to the PS4, regarding consoles)? In fact, why leave out a bunch of games? 

Oh well, since you ignored Yakuza, no need to go any further, as you've tripped over yourself enough. It was at least clarified how it's big in Japan, on just one device, anyway.

What? All I got from that is you lost the argument and want to spin it into something it isnt. Console exclusive? Doesnt change that its a port of a PC game.

I know facts get in the way of your bias so of course you will ignore them. everything I listed is either a PC port or multi platform. To combat it, you bring up yet another PC port.

I didnt ignore Yakuza, its not a PS4 launch game. Tell yuo what you keep living in your dream world and I will keep living in the REAL world.LOL

If it is on PC its not exclusive. Just because PS4 is the only console getting PC ports doesnt make them exclusive but of course you are too bias to see that. It also isnt proof Developers are taking risks on PS4 by porting their PC games to it.