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MohammadBadir said:
Wagram said:
MohammadBadir said:
Wagram said:
Why are people so against subscription fees? I'll never understand this.


because we need a brand new 400$ system, and pay 50$ a year for online, and 15$ monthly to be able to play this. that's WAY too much money


or you could buy it on PC where it's just $15 a month.

Hell, buy it on PS4 because MMOs aren't behind a paywall.


still, why should i pay 15$ bucks a month/180 bucks a year for a game i bough for 60$ damn dollars? money doesn't grow on trees

Because MMO's are vastly bigger than traditional games, and have a continuous stream of content added to them. That $180 would likely give you a awful lot more play time that buying four brand new games.



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Every MMO that has gone FTP ends up in the dust bin for me, the exception being EverQuest though I am still playing a SUB for that (it just doesn't require one to play at the lowest level). Inevitably major sections of the game ends up being part of the in game store. So much so that to play what I feel should be the standard base game tends to cost _way_ more than a SUB would. They introduce boring and annoying grindy mechanics that you can speed this one tie _if_ you pay a small fee. It just adds up to a unfun experience.

People like to cite GW2 as a good example of FTP games out there, which manages to get new content out every 2 weeks. Which is good, though I wonder how much of that is really being paid for by the one time purchase of the game vs the in game store. If its the former than expect a _heavy_ push of the store, possibly imposed pay gates etc, when that money dries up. Or they could begin to jam most of the content updates into xpacs.

As for ESO. I'm still not convinced of the games concept to begin with let alone whether it deserves a SUB.



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I personally wish the game was Buy-to-Play (e.g., Guild Wars), but as an Elder Scrolls fan, I'll probably subscribe for a month to try out the content. I'm not a big MMO gamer, so I have no desire subscribe for any longer than that.



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PullusPardus said:
Wagram said:
Why are people so against subscription fees? I'll never understand this.

because time is more valuable than money, and when you pay monthly and play it in short bursts you're only going to be wasting money, and if you pay monthly and play it in long bursts , you're wasting time.


 well said Pullus. This is basically why I cringe at the thought of subscription fees for games. I juggled plenty of games every year and sometimes I just don't play some for months, especially MMOs. I would basically be pissing away money everytime I'm not playing this game and I would be wasting away time for my studies when I play it for long periods of time...Something like that.

I'm not super opposed to subscriptions, hell, I still have my runescape membership up for a year in a row now. However, $15 a month is really steep for me.



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PullusPardus said:
Wagram said:
Why are people so against subscription fees? I'll never understand this.

because time is more valuable than money, and when you pay monthly and play it in short bursts you're only going to be wasting money, and if you pay monthly and play it in long bursts , you're wasting time.

That's exactly what I thought. If I get my money's worth at 15 a month then I clearly have too much time on my hands and should be doing something more producive. And if I play it the way I intend to then I'm just wasting my $. I'll play the older games till TES6 comes out or till this goes F2P (and it will).



 

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For about $110 I could get a year subscription of XBL and PSN+. Which allows me to play many games online and gives me "free" games.

Yet it cost a $180 for one year of Elder Scrolls Online. Fuck that, I'm not paying $15 a month to play a single repetitive game online.



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this game looks so generic from what I've seen, I see no point paying for this game when there's tons of F2P MMOs that do the same things, even better in some cases I suppose. SOE seems to do great with it's MMOs once they went for the F2P model



Vashyo said:
this game looks so generic from what I've seen, I see no point paying for this game when there's tons of F2P MMOs that do the same things, even better in some cases I suppose. SOE seems to do great with it's MMOs once they went for the F2P model


Someo people should be wary of SOEs FTP model, especially if it becomes the standard. Without SUB there are major restrictions. Even the silver SUB level, there are pretty stiff restrictions. Such as not being able to have max level, losing certain skills/abilities. It's definitely restricted gameplay and in some cases no matter how much you pay in the store you can't get the same experience as someone who pays full SUB. On the other hand that may be perfect for lots of people who just want to play the lower level game with some friends. I wonder how much money those gamers make for the game and if its not the people who actually pay SUB that end up carrying those games to profitability.

Keeping in mind this is just anecdotal, but I have a theory that people who pay SUBs are often also the people who spend the most money in the game store because they are more invested in their characters. But that probably varies from game to game depending on what is for sale in the store, like extra char slots, extra companion slots, etc.



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