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DirtyP2002 on 27 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nsanity said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Its the truth, whether you want to hear it is not my problem bro. You chose to respond. Their dependence on third parties and timed exclusives is just nuts. No brand identity.

You do know Sony is doing the exact same thing right?


Yes, but there are more actual first party. Sony doesn't depend on third party equally to MS. Squabbling about that fact is just sad. Like them or not that is the case.

Wait... MS showed

5 first party exclusives (Developed by MS, published by MS)

- Forza
- Halo
- Project Spark
- Kinect Sports Rivals

7 second party exclusives (external developer, published by MS)

- Ryse
- D4
- Below
- Quantum Break
- Crimson Dragon
- Sunset Overdrive
- Killer Instinct

2 third party exclusives (external developer / external publisher)

- Dead Rising 3
- Titanfall

 

And you say MS heavily depends on 3rd party content? Well of course they do, but not more than Sony or Nintendo does.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

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LiquorandGunFun on 27 June 2013

i havent seen anything on if it will use xbox live or not on pc. it would be cool to get a couple of achievements. if not oh well, its definitely a PC buy day one.



 

S.T.A.G.E. on 27 June 2013
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nsanity said:

You do know Sony is doing the exact same thing right?


Yes, but there are more actual first party. Sony doesn't depend on third party equally to MS. Squabbling about that fact is just sad. Like them or not that is the case.

Wait... MS showed

5 first party exclusives (Developed by MS, published by MS)

- Forza
- Halo
- Project Spark
- Kinect Sports Rivals

7 second party exclusives (external developer, published by MS)

- Ryse
- D4
- Below
- Quantum Break
- Crimson Dragon
- Sunset Overdrive
- Killer Instinct

2 third party exclusives (external developer / external publisher)

- Dead Rising 3
- Titanfall

 

And you say MS heavily depends on 3rd party content? Well of course they do, but not more than Sony or Nintendo does.


   LOL...just wait for Gamescom. This conversation hasn't even truly begun.



DirtyP2002 on 27 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nsanity said:

You do know Sony is doing the exact same thing right?


Yes, but there are more actual first party. Sony doesn't depend on third party equally to MS. Squabbling about that fact is just sad. Like them or not that is the case.

Wait... MS showed

5 first party exclusives (Developed by MS, published by MS)

- Forza
- Halo
- Project Spark
- Kinect Sports Rivals

7 second party exclusives (external developer, published by MS)

- Ryse
- D4
- Below
- Quantum Break
- Crimson Dragon
- Sunset Overdrive
- Killer Instinct

2 third party exclusives (external developer / external publisher)

- Dead Rising 3
- Titanfall

 

And you say MS heavily depends on 3rd party content? Well of course they do, but not more than Sony or Nintendo does.


   LOL...just wait for Gamescom. This conversation hasn't even truly begun.


Do you expect MS to announce more 3rd party exclusives? Because every other scenario would not support your argument that MS depends more heavily on 3rd party content.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

S.T.A.G.E. on 27 June 2013
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Wait... MS showed

5 first party exclusives (Developed by MS, published by MS)

- Forza
- Halo
- Project Spark
- Kinect Sports Rivals

7 second party exclusives (external developer, published by MS)

- Ryse
- D4
- Below
- Quantum Break
- Crimson Dragon
- Sunset Overdrive
- Killer Instinct

2 third party exclusives (external developer / external publisher)

- Dead Rising 3
- Titanfall

 

And you say MS heavily depends on 3rd party content? Well of course they do, but not more than Sony or Nintendo does.


   LOL...just wait for Gamescom. This conversation hasn't even truly begun.


Do you expect MS to announce more 3rd party exclusives? Because every other scenario would not support your argument that MS depends more heavily on 3rd party content.


So those games prove nothing? Those games are majority third party but listed mostly under second party because of publishing. I truly Hope Quantum Break, Dead Rising & Titanfall truly stay exclusive because out of KI & Halo they make up the bulk of the front lines. As I said, we'll speak again at Gamescom.



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J_Allard on 27 June 2013
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nsanity said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Its the truth, whether you want to hear it is not my problem bro. You chose to respond. Their dependence on third parties and timed exclusives is just nuts. No brand identity.

You do know Sony is doing the exact same thing right?


Yes, but there are more actual first party. Sony doesn't depend on third party equally to MS. Squabbling about that fact is just sad. Like them or not that is the case.

Wait... MS showed

5 first party exclusives (Developed by MS, published by MS)

- Forza
- Halo
- Project Spark
- Kinect Sports Rivals

7 second party exclusives (external developer, published by MS)

- Ryse
- D4
- Below
- Quantum Break
- Crimson Dragon
- Sunset Overdrive
- Killer Instinct

2 third party exclusives (external developer / external publisher)

- Dead Rising 3
- Titanfall

 

And you say MS heavily depends on 3rd party content? Well of course they do, but not more than Sony or Nintendo does.

You can't question the loyalty free logic.



sales2099 on 27 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Titanfall domination. Sucks MS moneyhatted it, I was looking forward to it on console but it looks like I'll be getting it on PC.


It happens. From all. Go get it on PC.  MS will be pleased either way.


I don't see how that could please MS if they never published the PC version. Its just dirty fighting just like they did with Dead Rising. They don't even own Crytek either. Mark you, I believe the game is a timed exclusive. Angry Joe spoke to the lead developers of Titanfall and it when questioned about whether it will be on the PS4 they opted not to speak. If it was confirmed that there is no PS4 version he would've outright said no. Prepare for further news.

By getting the PC version thats one less sale for the PS4 version, if any. Ergo, MS wins.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 27 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
papamudd said:
Lol what? Titanfall made up the majority of those nominations and wins.... And its a pc game so u cant really count that as a win for ms...


LOL MS always surviving off of third parties.

Except they have made significant strides in 1st party AND are playing dirty with 3rd party deals.

So you have X1 exclusives, as well as timed or outright exclusive 3rd party games that will be seen as a afterthought when it arrives on PS4. Or you will buy it on non PS4 platforms and thats one less PS4 sale.You mentioned X1 not having brand identity, well their 1st party lineup says otherwise but you can also say their brand identity is offering a 3rd party edge to their customers over Sony.

Loyalty free indeed......



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Imaginedvl on 27 June 2013

I cannot believe you guys are still arguing with Srage... He is completly biased anyway, it is obvious MS is ahead right in term of games and exclusives but he will find anything he coukd to arg with you about that (mainly with speculations...)



sales2099 on 27 June 2013
Imaginedvl said:
I cannot believe you guys are still arguing with Srage... He is completly biased anyway, it is obvious MS is ahead right in term of games and exclusives but he will find anything he coukd to arg with you about that (mainly with speculations...)

I like his default: Just wait til Gamescom. Like MS doesn't have any cards left to play lol



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.