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Mr Puggsly on 27 April 2013
zorg1000 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
zorg1000 said:
What is the benefit of a diskless 360? And Sony could introduce the 12gb PS3 in US for $149, 250gb-$199, 500gb-$250 or 12gb-$179, 500gb-$250 and discontinue the 250gb

Well I imagine their goal would to compete with digital boxes on the market. So gaming would probably be pushed as a feature other than its purpose.


So in that sense it wouldnt really affect PS3?

Doesn't sound like it. Perhaps the stingray will be kept with other digital media boxes.

If Sony does release a PS3 with no HDD, they gotta raise the amount of flash storage. People are complaining by how fast that memory can be filled with mandatory installs and updates. Not sure if Sony wants more markets complaining about how little 12gb really is for the PS3.



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zorg1000 on 27 April 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
zorg1000 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
zorg1000 said:
What is the benefit of a diskless 360? And Sony could introduce the 12gb PS3 in US for $149, 250gb-$199, 500gb-$250 or 12gb-$179, 500gb-$250 and discontinue the 250gb

Well I imagine their goal would to compete with digital boxes on the market. So gaming would probably be pushed as a feature other than its purpose.


So in that sense it wouldnt really affect PS3?

Doesn't sound like it. Perhaps the stingray will be kept with other digital media boxes.

If Sony does release a PS3 with no HDD, they gotta raise the amount of flash storage. People are complaining by how fast that memory can be filled with mandatory installs and updates. Not sure if Sony wants more markets complaining about how little 12gb really is for the PS3.

Ya I agree its too low but thats what they released in europe so thats why I said 12gb. I guess they could di something like 32gb for NA



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theprof00 on 27 April 2013

Thing is, it will still be a 360 and contribute to salea war



walsufnir on 27 April 2013
theprof00 said:
Thing is, it will still be a 360 and contribute to salea war


Of course it will.



thismeintiel on 27 April 2013

Personally, I don't see a diskless 360 selling very well. And I doubt Sony will do much more than what most already expect them to do. Bring the 12GB to all regions for ~$149-$169, possibly lower the 250GB model to $199-$219 and the 500GB to $249-269. This would keep the price of entry around the same difference it is now, so not really change sales much. If anything, I think these prices would benefit the PS3 more than the 360.



 

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walsufnir on 27 April 2013
thismeintiel said:
Personally, I don't see a diskless 360 selling very well. And I doubt Sony will do much more than what most already expect them to do. Bring the 12GB to all regions for ~$149-$169, possibly lower the 250GB model to $199-$219 and the 500GB to $249-269. This would keep the price of entry around the same difference it is now, so not really change sales much. If anything, I think these prices would benefit the PS3 more than the 360.

 

This is because you look at it the wrong way. The rumour describes it more as a competitor to AppleTV which *also* plays 360-download-games. And if this will launch for $99 it will definitely increase 360-sales.



zorg1000 on 27 April 2013
walsufnir said:
thismeintiel said:
Personally, I don't see a diskless 360 selling very well. And I doubt Sony will do much more than what most already expect them to do. Bring the 12GB to all regions for ~$149-$169, possibly lower the 250GB model to $199-$219 and the 500GB to $249-269. This would keep the price of entry around the same difference it is now, so not really change sales much. If anything, I think these prices would benefit the PS3 more than the 360.

 

This is because you look at it the wrong way. The rumour describes it more as a competitor to AppleTV which *also* plays 360-download-games. And if this will launch for $99 it will definitely increase 360-sales.


Would it just be XBLA games or could u dowload retail games too? Because if its just XBLA games then can u really call it a 360?



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walsufnir on 27 April 2013
zorg1000 said:
walsufnir said:
thismeintiel said:
Personally, I don't see a diskless 360 selling very well. And I doubt Sony will do much more than what most already expect them to do. Bring the 12GB to all regions for ~$149-$169, possibly lower the 250GB model to $199-$219 and the 500GB to $249-269. This would keep the price of entry around the same difference it is now, so not really change sales much. If anything, I think these prices would benefit the PS3 more than the 360.

 

This is because you look at it the wrong way. The rumour describes it more as a competitor to AppleTV which *also* plays 360-download-games. And if this will launch for $99 it will definitely increase 360-sales.


Would it just be XBLA games or could u dowload retail games too? Because if its just XBLA games then can u really call it a 360?


Why should it be limited to XBLA? They have to run on the same hardware so it would be stupid to limit it to XBLA - there is no technical need for this.



zorg1000 on 27 April 2013
walsufnir said:
zorg1000 said:
walsufnir said:
thismeintiel said:
Personally, I don't see a diskless 360 selling very well. And I doubt Sony will do much more than what most already expect them to do. Bring the 12GB to all regions for ~$149-$169, possibly lower the 250GB model to $199-$219 and the 500GB to $249-269. This would keep the price of entry around the same difference it is now, so not really change sales much. If anything, I think these prices would benefit the PS3 more than the 360.

 

This is because you look at it the wrong way. The rumour describes it more as a competitor to AppleTV which *also* plays 360-download-games. And if this will launch for $99 it will definitely increase 360-sales.


Would it just be XBLA games or could u dowload retail games too? Because if its just XBLA games then can u really call it a 360?


Why should it be limited to XBLA? They have to run on the same hardware so it would be stupid to limit it to XBLA - there is no technical need for this.

Ok that makes sense, I just got confused when u said 360 download games, thats my bad



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MakeAmazing on 27 April 2013

You say its a competitor to Apple TV, but if all it is, is an Xbox without a drive, then I don't see a $99 Xbox selling that much better than a $149 (blu-ray) disk PS3. I mean what would it do that the current consoles cannot do... they can already access TV services, streaming movies, buying movies.